Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-28 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Rasmus writes: > Isn't the point that you don't have to support those (e.g. markddown). > The current documentation is pretty specific about not having expectations > about KEYWORDS and DESCRIPTION working. It would be the same for > SUBTITLE. OK, then SUBTITLE is expected to be out of "ox.el".

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-28 Thread Melanie Bacou
See inline. On 3/26/2015 6:42 AM, Rasmus wrote: Rasmus writes: This would be the title and this the subtitle ref: http://getbootstrap.com/components/#page-header According to html5doctor.com: Note: Some have been advocating of the use of the small element to signify subtitl

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-26 Thread Rasmus
Rasmus writes: >> >> This would be the title and this the subtitle >> >> >> ref: http://getbootstrap.com/components/#page-header According to html5doctor.com: Note: Some have been advocating of the use of the small element to signify subtitles. This has been under discussion in the

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-26 Thread Rasmus
Hi, Melanie Bacou writes: > I would indeed go further and suggest adding the following once and > for all as common ox features: I don't think so. Consider the ultra important ox-ical (it's important 'cause it keep my calendar in sync via org-caldav). How should it handle these fields? I thi

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-26 Thread Rasmus
Melanie Bacou writes: > Here is how titles and subtitles are supported in Bootstrap ("the most > popular HTML/CSS/JS framework"): > > > This would be the title and this the subtitle > > > ref: http://getbootstrap.com/components/#page-header I don't know what bootstrap is. I have softened on

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-25 Thread Melanie Bacou
Here is how titles and subtitles are supported in Bootstrap ("the most popular HTML/CSS/JS framework"): This would be the title and this the subtitle ref: http://getbootstrap.com/components/#page-header Another commonly seen approach is this (many web CMS use this pseudo standard): My T

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-25 Thread Melanie Bacou
I forgot: #+COPYRIGHT On 3/25/2015 10:36 PM, Melanie Bacou wrote: I would indeed go further and suggest adding the following once and for all as common ox features: #+TITLE #+SUBTITLE #+DATE #+AUTHORS (support multiple) #+EMAILS (1 per author) #+AFFILIATIONS (1 per author) #+CLASSIFICATION (e

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-25 Thread Melanie Bacou
I would indeed go further and suggest adding the following once and for all as common ox features: #+TITLE #+SUBTITLE #+DATE #+AUTHORS (support multiple) #+EMAILS (1 per author) #+AFFILIATIONS (1 per author) #+CLASSIFICATION (e.g. "ACM", "JEL", "Dublin Core", "your corporate classification", et

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-24 Thread Rasmus
Nicolas Goaziou writes: > E.g., when creating a new export back-end, it is quite obvious that one > will need to handle TITLE, DATE, AUTHOR and EMAIL somehow. Now, if you > request handlers for SUBTITLE, KEYWORDS and DESCRIPTION, it becomes more > tedious to achieve the task. Isn't the point tha

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-24 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Rasmus writes: > Nicolas Goaziou writes: > >> However, I think porting this feature to back-ends that do not support >> it out of the box is pushing too hard. > > In the patch there's ox-latex where e.g. KOMA-Script has as > subtitle-macro. ox-html, ox-ascii, ox-odt all are pretty liberate for

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-23 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Marcin Borkowski wrote: > On 2015-03-22, at 16:29, Rasmus wrote: > >> IMO it is. The only place where there's a "hack" is in ox-latex and >> that's cause article is the default class. If you prefer, it can just >> output to the \subtitle{·} by default and say it's KOMA-script only. That >> seem

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-23 Thread Marcin Borkowski
On 2015-03-23, at 01:05, Rasmus wrote: > Hi, > > First: Please don't take me being critical as meaning I'm necessarily > negative about. I'm just minimizing risk over the expectation. Of course, fine with me. It’s the criticism which can make this project better (or help decide it’s unnecessa

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Rasmus writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> Rasmus writes: >> >> In ox-html, You might consider wrapping the title and subtitle in an >> if :html5-fancy is t. Or maybe that's going too far! Either >> way, I like this. > > First result on my search engine says¹ : > > Update 16th April, 2

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread Rasmus
Hi, First: Please don't take me being critical as meaning I'm necessarily negative about. I'm just minimizing risk over the expectation. Marcin Borkowski writes: >> - What happens when you cannot maintain it any longer? Note also that the > > Either the project dies, or someone takes it over.

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread Marcin Borkowski
On 2015-03-22, at 23:43, Rasmus wrote: > Marcin Borkowski writes: > >> [TL;DR: imho, the right way to do LaTeX export is to prepare a dedicated >> package for Org-mode generated files (easy/medium), arrange for it to be >> included in all major TeX distros (easy) and simplify the LaTeX exporter

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread Rasmus
Marcin Borkowski writes: > [TL;DR: imho, the right way to do LaTeX export is to prepare a dedicated > package for Org-mode generated files (easy/medium), arrange for it to be > included in all major TeX distros (easy) and simplify the LaTeX exporter > to comply with it (easy). This could greatly

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread John Williams
I, for one, find your ideas exciting, Marcin. If you're simply looking for votes in order to start work on this: +1. Thanks! > Marcin Borkowski writes: > On 2015-03-22, at 16:29, Rasmus wrote: >> IMO it is. The only place where there's a "hack" is in ox-latex >> and that's c

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Marcin Borkowski writes: > On 2015-03-22, at 16:29, Rasmus wrote: > >> IMO it is. The only place where there's a "hack" is in ox-latex and >> that's cause article is the default class. If you prefer, it can just >> output to the \subtitle{·} by default and say it's KOMA-script only. That >> s

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread Marcin Borkowski
On 2015-03-22, at 16:29, Rasmus wrote: > IMO it is. The only place where there's a "hack" is in ox-latex and > that's cause article is the default class. If you prefer, it can just > output to the \subtitle{·} by default and say it's KOMA-script only. That > seems harsh, though. Hi there, b

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread Rasmus
Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Rasmus writes: > > In ox-html, You might consider wrapping the title and subtitle in an > if :html5-fancy is t. Or maybe that's going too far! Either > way, I like this. First result on my search engine says¹ : Update 16th April, 2013. hgroup has now been remove

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread Rasmus
Hi Nicolas, I'm a bit confused by your message. Nicolas Goaziou writes: > However, I think porting this feature to back-ends that do not support > it out of the box is pushing too hard. In the patch there's ox-latex where e.g. KOMA-Script has as subtitle-macro. ox-html, ox-ascii, ox-odt all

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Rasmus writes: > Hi, > > This patch adds #+SUBTITLE to a couple of backends. This property is > already supported in ox-texinfo and e.g. beamer.cls has a subtitles macro, > but ox-beamer.el has no #+SUBTITLE. I have used subtitles in > e.g. applications for research funds. > > The value-added i

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-22 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Rasmus writes: > This patch adds #+SUBTITLE to a couple of backends. This property is > already supported in ox-texinfo and e.g. beamer.cls has a subtitles macro, > but ox-beamer.el has no #+SUBTITLE. I have used subtitles in > e.g. applications for research funds. > > The value-added i

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-20 Thread Melanie Bacou
Very nice, thanks! On 3/20/2015 10:26 PM, Marcin Borkowski wrote: On 2015-03-21, at 00:23, Rasmus wrote: This patch adds #+SUBTITLE to a couple of backends. This property is WDTY? +1 Best, -- Melanie BACOU International Food Policy Research Institute Snr. Program Manager, HarvestChoi

Re: [O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-20 Thread Marcin Borkowski
On 2015-03-21, at 00:23, Rasmus wrote: > This patch adds #+SUBTITLE to a couple of backends. This property is > > WDTY? +1 Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University

[O] [ox, patch] Add #+SUBTITLE

2015-03-20 Thread Rasmus
Hi, This patch adds #+SUBTITLE to a couple of backends. This property is already supported in ox-texinfo and e.g. beamer.cls has a subtitles macro, but ox-beamer.el has no #+SUBTITLE. I have used subtitles in e.g. applications for research funds. The value-added is twofold: - It adds a con