Hello all,
I apologize in advance that this is so long.
I've been following this thread closely, because I've been using Org
mode daily for well over a decade, and this behavior affects me in
several important ways. I think this summary might be helpful.
Forever, it has been possible to start a
Hello,
I'm getting a weird error. When I "make vanilla" from the current git
repo, I don't get the error, so I'm sure it's something I've done, but
I'm not sure what, and my customizations make tracking down the problem
complicated. I know I can find out the source, but I'm hoping that
someone h
Hello all,
With the most recent Org from git, attempting to change to the next or
previous allowed value in Column View throws an error: Symbol's value as
variable is void: pom
An ECM for the error:
Type =make vanilla= at the command prompt.
Change the scratch buffer to org-mode.
Erase the buf
Hello,
Thank you so much for looking into this.
Kyle Meyer writes:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a function that uses org-map-entries to build a list of entries.
[... 6 lines omitted ...]
>
> Things seem to be working on my end. Both release_8.3.3 and the
> current master (23f31a9) are giving me th
odified by Debian
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Thanks in advance,
Terry
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> I doubt it is possible to tell that 'cause begins with an apostrophe and
> not an opening single quote without grammatical analysis.
Indeed. I pointed it out because it was unexpectedly doing the right thing.
Thank you.
T.
lly the error is obvious to
someone more familiar with it.
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cate or invalid CUSTOM_ID's?
>
> I have implemented something related recently, but I'll comment about
> this in another thread.
I look forward to reading it.
Best,
Terry
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oblem for someone? Or is this just another attempt to save
hypothetical users' feet? Or is it just a side-effect of other
refactoring?
Best,
Terry
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be fixed in 0449b785b4b58ec16e1aac126634de70eee519a4.
> Thank you for reporting it.
Thank you for your prompt action, but can I ask what you mean by
"fixed"? Have you decided to revert CUSTOM_ID to its previous
functionality? Are you still planning on changing its functionality
and/or meaning? Are you still planning on throwing warnings or errors in
the event of duplicate or invalid CUSTOM_ID's?
Best,
Terry
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8.2.
Ha ha. There are many tools capable of exporting plain-text documents
to HTML with predictable and stable ID's. If Org 8.3 is not going to be
one of them, using Org 8.2 is not a solution.
>> Unless there is a quick fix that restores external (non-Org-generated)
>> links to sections with CUSTOM_ID's, please revert these changes until
>> the development reaches a usable state.
>
> Won't happen.
As you said, they aren't your changes and it isn't your decision.
Best,
Terry
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ble code that breaks code that worked. Shouldn't it be developed
on a feature branch or in someone's private repo until it actually
works?
Unless there is a quick fix that restores external (non-Org-generated)
links to sections with CUSTOM_ID's, please revert these changes until
the development reaches a usable state.
All the best,
Terry
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f
2015-03-07 on binet, modified by Debian Package: Org-mode version
8.3beta (release_8.3beta-1045-gd8494b @
/home/tftorrey/T/org-mode/lisp/)
All the best,
Terry
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Hello Aaron,
Aaron Ecay writes:
> Hi Terry,
>
> 2015ko martxoak 10an, "T.F. Torrey"-ek idatzi zuen:
>
>> Of the things in your list, I think only the NEWS and Changelog are
>> absent from the master branch in git. Lots of us happily use Org master
>> f
d into the trunk?
If the manpower does not exist to support both a maint and a master
branch, maybe they should be merged. Could that be done?
Still just trying to make it easier to spread the gospel of Org,
Terry
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I'd rather get something
done with a dirty hack than not get it done at all.
All the best,
Terry
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emac...@gmail.com (Richard Y. Kim) writes:
> tftor...@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes:
>
>> I wonder how much effort it would take to copy onto my own machine the
>> scripts on the server that package the git maint version into an ELPA
>> version, and modify them t
ackages depend on
org, and others on org-plus-contrib, which cause both to be installed
(without some controtionist gymnastics). IMHO, the Org package at
Orgmode.org/elpa should either always include contrib, as the git
repository does, or split the contrib part into an org-contrib package
that depends on org.
All the best,
Terry
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inconvenient to do this for every package, but I
don't mind doing it for major packages like Org.
HTH,
Terry
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he unstable version in the archive on
the orgmode.org server.
(And personally, I think the "contrib" parts should either be merged
into the core or split into separate packages, but that's another can of
worms.)
All the best,
Terry
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e the git maint version into an ELPA
version, and modify them to package master instead. Probably not much.
I could host that on my own server, or maybe upload it to Melpa. I
think I will look into that.
All the best,
Terry
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you want to keep have both the GNU archive and the Orgmode.org
archive in your package-archives, and you want to have the unstable
version from Orgmode.org installed instead of the stable version from
the GNU archive, no problem: The one in the GNU archive has an older
date because the unstable one on the Orgmode.org server gets updates
every day, and thus the package manager will select that one to install.
IIUC,
Terry
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omated.
So, if the goal is to have the latest and greates version of Org
available via ELPA (and it should be), option 2 is the only one that is
possible in the real world, so that's the one we should set up.
All the best,
Terry
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viding the "bleeding edge" version on ELPA is not
without cost. The mailing list is littered with responses from Nicolas
saying "that problem has been fixed in the master version "
One last thought: I think it would be better to name the versions
"stable" and "unstable", to match the meanings established by Debian.
All the best,
Terry
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Nikolai Weibull writes:
> Would it be of interest to anyone else if the bleeding edge version
> was available via elpa?
I would also very much appreciate it.
Terry
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ntent makes nil
nil
#+END_SRC
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of 2014-12-19 on brahms, modified by Debian
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/home/tftorrey/T/org-mode/lisp/)
I haven't chased down the cause yet.
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On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 4:02 AM, Eric Abrahamsen
wrote:
> Hi Terry,
>
> I just tried with emacs -Q (I'm on 24.3.1) and git Org mode, and the \\
> is exported as "". Can you check with emacs -Q? If you look in
> ox-html.el, you'll see that the function `org-html-line-break' should
> produce a "\n".
.
I think this is a bug, not a limitation of the new exporter.
Best regards,
Terry
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Thank you for your hard work, Bastien. You've done a fantastic job
under unusually adversarial conditions.
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Bastien wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I'm stepping down as the Org maintainer.
>
> Carsten accepted to step up, if the community agrees.
> Please raise your thumbs
#x27;t look right to me.
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/home/tftorrey/.emacs.d/elisp/org/lisp/)
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y of Org that first captured me as a user, and I
still know of nothing else with so much accessibility, utility, and
power.
I'd be happy to give you more information about how to set up an Org
file to export to different formats the way I use mine, but really the
information is very clear in the manual.
And of course, if you have any trouble, the list is really great.
All the best,
Terry
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only my understanding of the copyright assignment, but
the terms seem straightforward and clear. If there really is
uncertainty among the developers here about what the copyright
assignment means, we should get clarification from RMS about the intent
or FSF legal about its legal implications before it lea
Thank you for your thoughtful reply. -- T.
Bastien writes:
> Hi Terry,
>
> I hear you. I completely agree that Org should not be less flexible
> than it has been so far. At least not for very good reasons, shared
> by both the developers and the users. IOW: ease of maintainance and
> code con
xt
files. I don't want to see it change to a rigid format for me to force
my files into, where my only options are conform or leave.
Org should err on the side of user freedom.
IMHO,
Terry
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do
sound like interesting ideas that might be of use to me. They also
sound like a lot of work. Should this be taken up again after the 8.0
release?
Best regards,
Terry
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a solution, 1 and 2 please, or 3 if 1
and 2 are too much work right now. If, on the other hand, you're just
trying to find a way to make my suggestions sound dumb, please see my
previous e-mail.
Best regards,
Terry
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o
off-list, where it might have been best for me to post this as well.
Best regards,
Terry
Jambunathan K writes:
> tftor...@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes:
>
>>>> This gives a significant advantage in that authors can link to the
>>>> various instances just by kn
developing XSLT and lisp to process the XHTML
output of Org, I appreciate when the design of the HTML output is
logical and useful.
I would rather see a good design implemented in hacks than a poor design
implemented in beautiful code.
Regards,
Terry
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Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> Hello,
>
> tftor...@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes:
>
>> One small problem, though: I see that if there is a TOC at the top and
>> then one included later using #+TOC, the exporter gives them both the
>> same id (). Duplicate ID's
Hello Nicolas,
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> Hello,
>
> tftor...@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes:
>
>> The new exporter currently puts the generated Table of Contents at the
>> beginning of the exported document in addition to the location of
>> "#+TOC: h
Hello Bastien,
Bastien writes:
> Hi Terry,
>
> tftor...@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes:
>
>> (I was looking for the syntax for the new #+TOC keyword, and in the
>> end I gave up and didn't find it until right now.)
>
> This is in the manual. If you are us
Hello Suvayu,
Suvayu Ali writes:
> On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 11:42:24AM -0700, T.F. Torrey wrote:
>>
>> I'm not making myself sound smart here, but the point is that I will be
>> happy when we get the documentation migrated over.
>
> FWIW, Worg (and Org) is a vo
s where they wanted it. Would that be so bad?
I was going to post a bug report saying that the initial generated TOC
should not be included if there was a following #+TOC line, but then I
couldn't answer what to do if the later TOC was only images or listings.
My proposal eliminates this problem.
All the best,
Terry
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hat I will be
happy when we get the documentation migrated over.
In the meantime, if we could add some prominent links to the sitemap,
index, and Worg index.html, that would have helped me a lot, and maybe
others.
Best regards,
Terry
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yle..." to "html-head..." was
to make it clear that the use is for anything in the head, not merely
style.
It is still appropriate for variables that actually refer to style to
have the word "style" in them.
IMHO,
Terry
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Hello Nicolas,
Thanks for your prompt reply, though I think our discussion is a little
off-track here, as noted below.
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> tftor...@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes:
>
>>> It would be ATTR_HTML: :class "XXX". I try to unify syntax for
>>>
Hello Nicolas,
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> tftor...@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes:
>
>>> You don't assign attributes to an image in a paragraph, you assign
>>> attributes to the paragraph itself.
>>
>> It would be nice if there actually was a way to
Hello,
First, as always, thanks for the prompt reply.
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> Hello,
>
> tftor...@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes:
>
>> Where attributes have been assigned to an image in a paragraph, the new
>> exporter applies those attributes to both the image
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before the new exporter can reliably
replace the old one?
Best regards,
Terry
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Hello,
Bastien writes:
> Hi Terry,
>
> tftor...@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes:
>
>> However, the new HTML exporter includes the MathJax JavaScript every
>> time, and I don't see any variable to set to suppress it.
>
> This is not the case anymore since co
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> tftor...@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes:
>
>> This almost works, I think ...
>>
>> #+name: snippet-awesome
>> #+begin_src org :exports results :results raw
>> Snippet of awesome text that changes sometimes. #+end_src
>>
>&
Hello Seb,
"Sebastien Vauban" writes:
> Hello T.F.,
>
> T.F. Torrey wrote:
>> Does the new export framework impose new restrictions on or change the
>> functionality of dynamic blocks?
>
> I've used them quite extensively today. Did not notice anything
Hello,
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> tftor...@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes:
>
>> I still don't see any similar options regarding MathJax. Perhaps
>> everyone else uses MathJax, or the functionality simply hasn't been
>> implemented yet. If only the HTML ex
Hello again,
Does the new export framework impose new restrictions on or change the
functionality of dynamic blocks?
Best regards,
Terry
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Hello Nicolas,
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> tftor...@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes:
>
>> Perhaps. We still know of no easy/straightforward way at all to
>> replicate using babel the behavior I had (creating '> class="foo">bar' with a macro), let alo
Hello Nicolas,
Thank your for your thoughtful reply.
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> tftor...@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes:
>
>> 1. You wrote before that macros were scaled back because what they did
>> could be done by babel. Is that really a good reason for removin
Hello,
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
> tftor...@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes:
>
>> Now, I have these:
>>
>> #+BIND: org-html-style-include-default nil
>> #+BIND: org-html-style-include-scripts nil
>>
>> But they seem to be silently ignored, though
used hooks and filters to connect itself into the export routine and the
various back-ends (if even necessary)? Then macros could be made to do
interesting things without burdening the export engine (and its
maintainer) at all.
Thanks again for your amazing work.
Best regards,
Terry
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gards,
Terry
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vior in the new export engine?
Also, in your response to Carsten's question about macros, you suggested
this:
#+MACRO: thumbright @@html:@@
The "@@" syntax looks new to me. Can you tell me what the function of
the "@@" is? Is this documented somewhere?
Best regards,
Terry
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Org-mode version 7.9.2+ (7.9.2+-GNU-Emacs-24-3 (commit 488eea) @ mixed
installation! /usr/share/emacs/24.3.50/lisp/org/ and
/home/tftorrey/.emacs.d/elisp/org/lisp/)
Terry
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s (tool bar off, some others, I can
post a list if anyone is interested). Nothing org related was before
it. Nonetheless, when I move package-initialize to be the first thing
in the init file, the problem goes away.
Thanks again for your help.
Best regards,
Terry
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10N\205;J\311\310N@!\232?\205;
B\211\207" [v list boundp string-match "\\`\\(org-\\|outline-\\)"
symbol-name "\\(-hook\\|-function\\)\\'" custom-type standard-value eval]
4](org-ditaa-jar-path)
mapatoms(#[(v)
"\302!\205;\303\304\305!\"\205;J\203 \303\306\305!\"\2046\307N\205;\310N\205;J\311\310N@!\232?\205;
B\211\207" [v list boundp string-match "\\`\\(org-\\|outline-\\)"
symbol-name "\\(-hook\\|-function\\)\\'" custom-type standard-value eval] 4])
org-submit-bug-report()
call-interactively(org-submit-bug-report record nil)
command-execute(org-submit-bug-report record)
execute-extended-command(nil "org-submit-bug-report")
call-interactively(execute-extended-command nil nil)
#+END_QUOTE
Best regards,
Terry
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es this, I'll dig through my files to see what's
broken, but I see lots of work has been done to the agenda creator
recently, and maybe this is a new problem and an easy fix.
Best,
Terry
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mixed installation!
/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/ and
/home/tftorrey/.emacs.d/src/org-mode/lisp/)
Best regards,
Terry
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diff --git a/lisp/org-publish.el b/lisp/org-publish.el
index e78e2d4..cd77c82 100644
--- a/lisp/org-publish.el
+++ b/lisp/org-publish.el
@@ -1191,7 +1191,7 @@ Re
to work around problem
when exporting subtree with HTML_CONTAINER_CLASS property.
TINYCHANGE
All the best,
Terry
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diff --git a/lisp/org-exp.el b/lisp/org-exp.el
index c901a88..875bdf8 100644
--- a/lisp/org-exp.el
+++ b/lisp/org-exp.el
@@ -1476,8 +1476,11 @@ the current file."
mail functions (which I don't fully understand)
already always leave the headers toggled off.
In the long run, this should probably be changed to respect the state
prior to storing the link, but for now, Bastien's patch makes the
linking function work.
Terry
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> This is fixed now, thanks.
>
> I used a slightly different fix, taking `rmail-header-style' into
> account. Thanks anyway for the patch!
It works for me. Thanks for the quick fix. Although ...
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24.1.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.2) of
2012-07-29 on doubah, modified by Debian
Org-mode version 7.8.11 (release_7.8.11-392-g9dae6f-git @ mixed
installation! /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/ and
/home/tftorrey/.emacs.d/src/org-mode/lisp/)
Best to all,
Terry
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diff --git
f 2012-07-29 on doubah, modified by Debian
Package: Org-mode version 7.8.11 (release_7.8.11-360-g7c4ac5-git @ mixed
installation! /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/ and
/home/tftorrey/.emacs.d/src/org-mode/lisp/)
Best to all,
Terry
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diff --git a/lisp/org-rmail.el b/lisp/org-rmail.e
> Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:57:35 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Minor docstring bug:
> org-footnote-goto-previous-reference
> From: Noorul Islam
> To: rpgold...@sift.info
> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2)
> Cc: Org Mode
> Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces
Hello,
> From: Stefan Vollmar
> Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2010 00:26:39 +0200
> To: emacs org-mode mailing list
> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1081)
> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 9
> Subject: [Orgmode] arranging and publishing music with Org-mode and lilypond
> Sender: emacs-orgmode
I had a similar problem with duplicate agenda entries. After much
aggravation, I discovered I had a duplicate entry for the file in the
"setq org-agenda-files" section of my .emacs file. Could the new machine
have multiple sections adding entries to org-agenda-files? Does the
value of that variable
On 06/18/2010 09:03 AM, David Maus wrote:
Olivier Schwander wrote:
[here]: http://ictsoc.de/code/org-atom/example.atom
Is there the source of this feed somewhere ? It would be nice to have a
self sufficient example.
I've uploaded the source of the example feed to
http://ictsoc.de/code/org
David,
This is really great work, and I'm excited about using it for my own
site. Hopefully this will be included in the official Org mode soon.
Thank you for this.
- Terry
On 06/15/2010 09:51 AM, David Maus wrote:
The Org to Atom exporter I've preliminary announce some weeks ago
entered a
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