Re: Concerns about community contributor support

2021-04-24 Thread Tim Cross
Bastien writes: > Dear Timothy, > > thanks for raising this points so carefully, they are important. > > I see three distinct problems: > > 1. The lack of response and/or follow-up when people contribute by >sending bug reports or patches on the list. > > 2. The lack of maintainance on docu

Re: [PATCH] Add org-meta*-final-hook

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
Hi Jay, Apologies for how incredibly long it's taken for someone to reply to your email. It looks like this is your first contribution, so please don't think this is the norm 😅, you just seemed to slip through the cracks. Jay Bosamiya writes: > Similar to org-shiftup-final-hook, org-shiftdown

Re: [PATCH] Async session eval (2nd attempt)

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
Hi Jack, Kyle, This is moving at a glacial pace, but I'd love to see this merged --- there's clearly a lot of interest in this from the community if not within this mailing list (ob-async which is more limited has 250 stars on GitHub). Jack, do you think you might be able to make these tweaks s

Re: [tip] search this mailing list with helm-surfraw

2021-04-24 Thread Bastien
Hi Greg, Greg Minshall writes: > okay, i'll bite: what *is* the difference between > https://orgmode.org/list and > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/ ? https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/ is the official archive of the GNU mailing list called emacs-orgmode@gnu.org.

Re: org-cite: make 'suppress-author' a citation 'style'

2021-04-24 Thread AndrĂĄs Simonyi
Dear All, my 2c on this issue: citeproc-el supports per cite author suppression under the hood, but citeproc-org always maps "suppress author" mode citations to suppressing only the first cite, because my impression was also that this is a citation-level option. This is how the proposal on the cit

Contributor Steward role (was Re: Concerns about community contributor support)

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
Dear Bastien, Thank you for your well-thought-out reply. With regards to the question your email ends with: > What do you think? Would you be willing to take this role? > If not, that's perfectly okay, I'll send a call for help. The short answer is "yes, mostly". The long answer follows :P I

Re: [tip] search this mailing list with helm-surfraw

2021-04-24 Thread Greg Minshall
Bastien, > You might want to write another one for the public-inbox archive: > > E.g. https://orgmode.org/list/?q=Juan+Manuel+Mac%C3%ADas okay, i'll bite: what *is* the difference between https://orgmode.org/list and https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/ ? cheers, Greg

Re: [tip] search this mailing list with helm-surfraw

2021-04-24 Thread Bastien
Hi Juan, Juan Manuel MacĂ­as writes: > I have written some elvis for my > personal use, among them this simple script to search this mailing list, > which I share here in case someone finds it useful: Neat! You might want to write another one for the public-inbox archive: E.g. https://orgmod

Re: Backwards compatability

2021-04-24 Thread Bastien
Hi Bithov, we *do* care a lot about backward compatibility*. We cannot make a strong commitment for contributed libraries and external ones, though, otherwise Org would not evolve. org-drill.el was removed from the contrib/ directory 1 year ago: https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode/commit/2c8e8

Re: Concerns about community contributor support

2021-04-24 Thread Bastien
Dear Timothy, thanks for raising this points so carefully, they are important. I see three distinct problems: 1. The lack of response and/or follow-up when people contribute by sending bug reports or patches on the list. 2. The lack of maintainance on documenting the contribution process

Re: [final patch] Re: add new link type "contact:" for org-contacts.el

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
I'm afraid it looks like I either made a typo while doing this, or something odd happened. Regardless it didn't work correctly. Take 2, sorry for the noise --- but at least the patch section on updates.orgmode.org should be more useful now as it only shows pending patches again. Timothy writes

Re: [PATCH 0/1] Add option to delay fontification of source blocks

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
Marking as closed on updates.orgmode.org via the X-Woof-Patch header. Leo Okawa Ericson writes: > I can't think of a reason either (now that I know that jit-lock exists) > so I will retract my patch.

Re: [PATCH 0/1] Add option to delay fontification of source blocks

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
Marking as closed on updates.orgmode.org via the X-Woof-Patch header. Leo Okawa Ericson writes: > I can't think of a reason either (now that I know that jit-lock exists) > so I will retract my patch.

Re: [PATCH 0/1] Add option to delay fontification of source blocks

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
Marking as closed on updates.orgmode.org via the X-Woof-Patch header. Leo Okawa Ericson writes: > I can't think of a reason either (now that I know that jit-lock exists) > so I will retract my patch.

Re: [PATCH] Startup option to separate macros arguments with an alternative string

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
As you have said you'll start a new thread for your revised proposal, I'll mark this as closed on updates.orgmode.org via the X-Woof-Patch header. Juan Manuel MacĂ­as writes: > Ok, I agree. Next week I will start a new thread for submit this new > proposal. > > Best regards, > > Juan Manuel

Re: [PATCH] ob-java: Allow import to end with asterisk

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
This was not marked as applied on updates.orgmode.org. Doing so with the X-Woof-Patch header. ian martins writes: > Thanks. And thanks for taking the time to fix issues that you find. It > continues to improve because of your contributions. > The patch looks good. Applied.

Re: [PATCH] ob-java, a proposal on import improvement

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
This was not marked as applied on updates.orgmode.org. Doing so with the X-Woof-Patch header. ian martins writes: > It's no problem. Didn't mean to rush you. Thanks again for the patch. Applied.

Re: [PATCH] org-contacts.el: Use `bound-and-true-p' to check (unbound) var

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
This was not marked as applied on updates.orgmode.org. Doing so with the X-Woof-Patch header. miles christopher writes: > Applied, I think this should be the final version.

Re: [PATCH] ol: Avoid initial input when completing function for storing link

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
This was not marked as applied on updates.orgmode.org. Doing so with the X-Woof-Patch header. Kyle Meyer writes: > Pushed (00b4de329).

Re: [PATCH] Apply emacs manual css to org pages

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
For some reason updates.orgmode.org registered this as a new patch?? Marking as closed via X-Woof-Patch header. Greg Minshall writes: > Timothy, > >> This is a quick patch to use the Emacs manual CSS with our generated Org >> manual. > > that's certainly visually pleasing. nice! > > Greg

Re: [PATCH] Apply emacs manual css to org pages

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
This was not marked as applied on updates.orgmode.org. Doing so with the X-Woof-Patch header. Bastien writes: > I made this change and tested it online, the HTML Org manual now looks > like the Emacs manual: https://orgmode.org/manual/ > > Thanks for the suggestion! > In any cas, the Emacs ma

Re: [final patch] Re: add new link type "contact:" for org-contacts.el

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
This was not marked as applied on updates.orgmode.org. Doing so with the X-Woof-Patch header. Bastien writes: > Of course, done (c822c80ef). > > Sorry I forgot about this patch, and thanks for your reply.

Re: [PATCH] New "project" option for org-link-file-path-type

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
This was not marked as applied on updates.orgmode.org. Doing so with the X-Woof-Patch header. Jack Kamm writes: > Thanks, I've fixed the remaining issues you pointed out and pushed this > in 5371b30fe. > > Cheers, > Jack

Re: [PATCH] I updated patch by deleteing duplicate tags

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
This was not marked as applied. Doing so with the X-Woof-Patch header. Kyle Meyer writes: > Christopher Miles writes: > >> Subject: [PATCH] org.el: Complete tags from both global and buffer local > > Thanks. Applied (86ad8d279)...

Re: [PATCH] org-capture.el: Add new capture template option :refile-to

2021-04-24 Thread Timothy
Marking this patch as cancelled for updates.orgmode.org.

Re: org-cite: make 'suppress-author' a citation 'style'

2021-04-24 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 4:09 PM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > > Hello, > > "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > > > I also came across this post from 2018 from Andras ... > > > > https://orgmode.org/list/87in8jaywk@all.hu/ > > > > ... which includes a link to his proposal on what we now call styles, > > but

[PATCH] org-capture.el: Add new capture template option :refile-to

2021-04-24 Thread Richard Garner
Hi all, (Resending after messing up the first time.) The included patch adds a new property :refile-to to org capture templates, allowing each template to have its own set of refile targets. I find this really useful in practice and thought others might too. Richard >From 829c1ba4805327645fcb7

Re: [PATCH] org-capture.el: Add new capture template option :refile-to

2021-04-24 Thread Richard Garner
Sorry, messed up the patch attachment, will resend in a new thread. Richard Richard Garner writes: > Hi all, > > The included patch adds a new property :refile-to to org capture > templates, allowing each template to have its own set of refile targets. > I find this really useful in practice

[PATCH] org-capture.el: Add new capture template option :refile-to

2021-04-24 Thread Richard Garner
Hi all, The included patch adds a new property :refile-to to org capture templates, allowing each template to have its own set of refile targets. I find this really useful in practice and thought others might too. Richard --- >From 829c1ba4805327645fcb75b35b73ecb3a1700b2f Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 20

Re: org-cite: make 'suppress-author' a citation 'style'

2021-04-24 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > I also came across this post from 2018 from Andras ... > > https://orgmode.org/list/87in8jaywk@all.hu/ > > ... which includes a link to his proposal on what we now call styles, > but there he calls (a la the TeX world) commands: > > https://github.com/andras-

Re: org-cite: make 'suppress-author' a citation 'style'

2021-04-24 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
I also came across this post from 2018 from Andras ... https://orgmode.org/list/87in8jaywk@all.hu/ ... which includes a link to his proposal on what we now call styles, but there he calls (a la the TeX world) commands: https://github.com/andras-simonyi/citeproc-el/wiki/Citation-types-and-com

Re: wip-cite status question and feedback

2021-04-24 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 1:47 PM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > > Hello, > > "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > > > Some sentence with a concluding citation [cite:@key]. > > > > ... that should end up like this: > > > > Some sentence with a concluding citation.[1] > > > > Aside: looking through the CSL spec, it

Re: wip-cite status question and feedback

2021-04-24 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > Some sentence with a concluding citation [cite:@key]. > > ... that should end up like this: > > Some sentence with a concluding citation.[1] > > Aside: looking through the CSL spec, it doesn't seem this is > documented. It obviously should be. > > And I don't rem

Re: wip-cite status question and feedback

2021-04-24 Thread M . ‘quintus’ Gülker
Am 23. April 2021 um 09:24 Uhr -0400 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus: > It can be that not only does the space get removed, but the note mark > is moved outside the period. > > So if you have ... > > Some sentence with a concluding citation [cite:@key]. > > ... that should end up like this: > > Some sent

Re: org-cite: make 'suppress-author' a citation 'style'

2021-04-24 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Sat, Apr 24, 2021, 1:08 PM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > Hello, > > "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > > > This distinction is wrong, and we should treat "suppress-author" as a > > citation style instead. > > > > The result would be: > > > > [cite/supress-author:doe19;doe20] > > > > Or even can keep the sh

Re: org-cite: make 'suppress-author' a citation 'style'

2021-04-24 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > This distinction is wrong, and we should treat "suppress-author" as a > citation style instead. > > The result would be: > > [cite/supress-author:doe19;doe20] > > Or even can keep the shorthand: > > [cite/-:doe19;doe20] > > In fact, with the change, could even re

Re: [Patch] to correctly sort the items with emphasis marks in a list

2021-04-24 Thread Maxim Nikulin
On 21/04/2021 22:45, Juan Manuel MacĂ­as wrote: I have tried the Nicolas' patch (latest version) and I see that the items with emphasis are already ordered well. However, it seems that the problem with identical items with or without emphasis still persists: which items should go before and in wh

Re: wip-cite status question and feedback

2021-04-24 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, AndrĂĄs Simonyi writes: > Thank you, this is very promising! I've checked the behaviour of > citeproc-org with and without a note style now and there is only one > additional minor difference which I forgot to mention, I don't know > how difficult would it be to implement it: When a citat

Re: org-cite: make 'suppress-author' a citation 'style'

2021-04-24 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
Correction, though it doesn't change the conclusion. On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 6:52 AM Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > So to get "Doe (2019) argues" you would need to write "Doe [@doe19]" > in pandoc, for example. Incorrect: the pandoc syntax for citet-like rendering is: @doe19 So to drop the brackets.

Re: (Not so) Short note about citations in Org

2021-04-24 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 3:53 AM Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > > Hello, > > "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > > > Nicolas, > > > > Quick syntax question: > > > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 7:34 PM Nicolas Goaziou > > wrote: > > > >> As a reminder, the full citation syntax is > >> > >> [cite/style:common prefi

org-cite: make 'suppress-author' a citation 'style'

2021-04-24 Thread Bruce D'Arcus
Hi Nicolas, As I was working on adding a function to generate the new cite syntax, an idea occurred to me that I'd like to raise, that would simplify this model and syntax. I ran the idea by the pandoc list just to confirm my thinking was reasonable, since that has a lot of experience using these

Re: Bug: Incorrect duration format example in comments in 'org-duration.el' [9.3 (release_9.3 @ /usr/share/emacs/27.1/lisp/org/)]

2021-04-24 Thread Johnson
Yes, the issue is due to using an older version of Org. I searched the change log and saw that the compact form is introduced in Org 9.4, while mine is 9.3. Thanks for your help! Sincerely, Johnson On 4/20/2021 9:42 PM, NicolasGoaziou wrote: Hello, Johnson writes: I'm contributing to an

Re: (Not so) Short note about citations in Org

2021-04-24 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, M. ‘quintus’ Gülker writes: > I sometimes use emphasis around citations, but since my citation > styles all use footnotes, I think there should be no problem with > this. For example, I would write something like this (I hope I got the > syntax right): > > This is a test sentence[fn:1

Re: (Not so) Short note about citations in Org

2021-04-24 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, "Bruce D'Arcus" writes: > Nicolas, > > Quick syntax question: > > On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 7:34 PM Nicolas Goaziou > wrote: > >> As a reminder, the full citation syntax is >> >> [cite/style:common prefix ;prefix -@key suffix; ... ; common suffix] > > Is the space you have here before t

Re: Bug: org-caputure fails, sometimes [9.3.7 (release_9.3.7-705-gea9463 @ /home/oub/emacs/site-lisp/packages/org/)]

2021-04-24 Thread Uwe Brauer
> Uwe Brauer writes: Hi > With this backtrace alone (which involves org-capture catching the > internal error), I think it's going to be hard for anyone to guess > what's going on here. It sounds like once you encounter this error, > subsequent calls reliably trigger it. Next time you run in