Re: [O] [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b

2013-01-11 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: > (load "org-loaddefs.el" t t t) will *not* load gzipped version of > org-loaddefs.el. That's what I was trying to tell you and I consider that a bug. > Please point at one distribution that actually distributes gzipped > autoloads files like loaddefs.el. Why should I? People ha

Re: [O] org agenda extensions

2013-01-11 Thread Thomas Alexander Gerds
Hi Bastien thanks for looking into this! I understand your general point of view. however, the proposed changes would only slow down agenda creating if org-agenda-property-list is set, right? also, it certainly requires some insights to write org-agenda-overriding-agenda-format which could displa

[O] About `org-insert-heading' in Org's manual

2013-01-11 Thread Xue Fuqiao
In (info "(org) Plain lists"): `M-' (`org-insert-heading') Insert new item at current level. With a prefix argument, force a new heading (*note Structure editing::). If this command is used in the middle of an item, that item is _split_ in two, and the second part becomes

Re: [O] org agenda extensions

2013-01-11 Thread Bastien
Hi Thomas, I've reviewed the proposed change. `org-scan-tags' already does many things beyond its name, because a "tag" here is really a "match", which can include properties -- see `org-make-tags-matcher' for how the "tags match" is built from properties). This is handy for tags view and `org

Re: [O] [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b

2013-01-11 Thread Bastien
Eric Schulte writes: > Shouldn't this sort of discussion and development be taking place on > emacs-dev and in non-org Emacs libraries. Yes, it does. -- Bastien

Re: [O] [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b

2013-01-11 Thread Bastien
Achim Gratz writes: > Bastien writes: >> Yep, typo. But the 'mustsuffix trick is to force loading ".el" (and >> not ".elc" files, right? My question is: when is it necessary? > > The 'mustsuffix argument prevents consideration of the filename without > the extensions listed in load-suffixes. I

Re: [O] different color for calculated cells in tables

2013-01-11 Thread Bastien
Hi Daniel, Daniel Clemente writes: > This is an idea, but the code's missing. I agree this would be a nice feature. > Any comments on the difficulty of this? I'd say "quite difficult". :) -- Bastien

Re: [O] habits don't get re-scheduled

2013-01-11 Thread Bastien
Hi Karl, Karl Voit writes: > Another strange issue that I recognized today though: my habits do > not work any more: Whenever I mark an habit as DONE, it does not get > re-scheduled as is was before your recent changes. A CLOSED > time-stamp is added instead. > > Is there something I overlooked

Re: [O] emacs initialization files in org mode

2013-01-11 Thread Tony Day
On 7 Jan 2013, at 04:41, Alan Schmitt wrote: > The bare minimum one can do is: > - rename the current init.el into myinit.org > - add the lines "#+begin_src emacs-lisp" as the first line, and > "+end_src" as the last line > - adapt the init.el from emacs-starter-kit as follows > #+BEGIN_SRC emac

Re: [O] org bingo

2013-01-11 Thread Tony Day
updated. thanks guys and gals :) https://gist.github.com/4343164 tony day tonyday...@gmail.com On 7 Jan 2013, at 18:16, Achim Gratz wrote: > Yasushi SHOJI writes: >> + (org-agenda-buffer (if (buffer-live-p org-agenda-buffer) >> + org-agenda-buffer)) >

Re: [O] [BUG]HTML export convert line-break into a space

2013-01-11 Thread Rocky Zhang
Hi Bastien, Thanks! That would be great! -- Rocky Zhang >Hi Rocky, > >163(rockyzhz) writes: > >> This result is natural and good in English, but in Chinese >> these is NOT any space among words typically, the extra space >> converted from line-break would seem weird and somewhat ugl

Re: [O] [New exporter] org-export-latex-verbatim-wrap

2013-01-11 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Ista Zahn writes: > Does the new exporter have any equivalent of > org-export-latex-verbatim-wrap? I've looked but don't see anything. > How can I format verbatim output when using the new exporter? Add a filter to `org-export-filter-fixed-width-functions'. E.g.: #+begin_src emacs-lisp

[O] different color for calculated cells in tables

2013-01-11 Thread Daniel Clemente
Hi, I would like to easily view which table cells are calculated, that is, which values would be overwritten if I updated the table (C-u C-u C-u C-c C-c) We can use a different cell background color (maybe with overlays?) for the automatic cells, and the normal one for „manual entry“ cells

[O] bug#10125: RFE: require and load-path-shadowing

2013-01-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
I guess we could fork Emacs early on and keep this second process around as a "process from which to generate new clean slates". >>> I've been thinking about something like this for a while… if it worked >>> at least as well as starting a new Emacs instance on all platforms, I'd >>> favor

Re: [O] [PATCH] Introduce a new variable for x11idle

2013-01-11 Thread Bastien
Hi Yasushi, Yasushi SHOJI writes: > Debian and other OSes already have a program called 'xprintidle', > which does the same thing as x11idle. It also handles the DPMS bug[1] > some version of X servers have. > > In order to use an alternative, introduce a customizable variable > 'org-clock-x11id

Re: [O] org agenda extensions

2013-01-11 Thread Thomas Alexander Gerds
sure, here it comes (attached to this mail). to try my example you need to evaluate the file test.el (also attached) and the following expression: (test-overriding-format "~/saved-attachments/test.org") after saving test.org (also attached) in folder ~/saved-attachments/ does this work for you?

Re: [O] [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b

2013-01-11 Thread Achim Gratz
Eric Schulte writes: > These sounds like a Emacs-wide (or possibly find-library) issues, rather > than anything specific to Org, outlining, agendas or plain text notes. > > Shouldn't this sort of discussion and development be taking place on > emacs-dev and in non-org Emacs libraries. I've already

Re: [O] [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b

2013-01-11 Thread Eric Schulte
Achim Gratz writes: > Bastien writes: >> Yep, typo. But the 'mustsuffix trick is to force loading ".el" (and >> not ".elc" files, right? My question is: when is it necessary? > > The 'mustsuffix argument prevents consideration of the filename without > the extensions listed in load-suffixes. I

Re: [O] mobileorg and encryption

2013-01-11 Thread Greg Troxel
John Hendy writes: > I installed android privacy guard on the phone, and can verify that > staged files are encrypted... but I don't see how to decrypt in the > app. The documentation states > (https://github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/wiki): > - > Decrypting encrypted org files via integ

[O] bug#10125: RFE: require and load-path-shadowing

2013-01-11 Thread Achim Gratz
Stefan Monnier writes: >>> I guess we could fork Emacs early on and keep this second process >>> around as a "process from which to generate new clean slates". >> I've been thinking about something like this for a while… if it worked >> at least as well as starting a new Emacs instance on all platf

Re: [O] [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b

2013-01-11 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: > Yep, typo. But the 'mustsuffix trick is to force loading ".el" (and > not ".elc" files, right? My question is: when is it necessary? The 'mustsuffix argument prevents consideration of the filename without the extensions listed in load-suffixes. In other words, when you are try

[O] mobileorg and encryption

2013-01-11 Thread John Hendy
I have the following in emacs config: (setq org-mobile-use-encryption t) (setq org-mobile-encryption-password "password") I installed android privacy guard on the phone, and can verify that staged files are encrypted... but I don't see how to decrypt in the app. The documentation states (https://

[O] habits don't get re-scheduled (was: Inherited tags not visible in agenda)

2013-01-11 Thread Karl Voit
* Bastien wrote: > Hi Karl, Hi! > Karl Voit writes: > >> What is my problem that prevents inherited tags being visible in my >> agenda? > > Please pull again -- I restored the default behavior. > > I'm a bit on a headache, so perhaps I've lost myself in the > possibilities, and forgot to handle

Re: [O] [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b

2013-01-11 Thread Bastien
Achim Gratz writes: > Bastien writes: >> There is this line at the end of org-loaddefs.el: >> >> ;; no-byte-compile: t >> >> So my understanding is that org-loaddefs.el is never compressed. > > Byte-compiled != compressed. Yep, typo. But the 'mustsuffix trick is to force loading ".el" (and not

Re: [O] Fixes for org-capture-templates-contexts

2013-01-11 Thread Bastien
Hi Paul, Paul Sexton writes: > org-capture-templates-contexts currently appears not to work. The structure > that the function 'org-contextualize-validate-key' expects to find in the > variable seems quite different from the structure described in the docstring. indeed, there are some bugs here

Re: [O] [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b

2013-01-11 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: > There is this line at the end of org-loaddefs.el: > > ;; no-byte-compile: t > > So my understanding is that org-loaddefs.el is never compressed. Byte-compiled != compressed. > Under which conditions is it compressed? When calling gzip on it. >> In particular, when there is ano

Re: [O] [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b

2013-01-11 Thread Bastien
Achim Gratz writes: > Also, this change again breaks installs where the autoloads file is > compressed (that was the reason for introduction of the more complicated > way to load this file that led to the introduction of the new > macro). There is this line at the end of org-loaddefs.el: ;; no-

[O] bug#10125: RFE: require and load-path-shadowing

2013-01-11 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> I guess we could fork Emacs early on and keep this second process >> around as a "process from which to generate new clean slates". > I've been thinking about something like this for a while… if it worked > at least as well as starting a new Emacs instance on all platforms, I'd > favor this appr

Re: [O] LaTeX preview

2013-01-11 Thread Bastien
Daimrod writes: > I've sent a request. I will tell you when it's done, I hope this won't take > too much time. Thanks!! -- Bastien

Re: [O] [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b

2013-01-11 Thread Achim Gratz
Eric Schulte writes: > My only suggestion would be that they include the following step. > > ;; emacs-lisp > (require 'org) > (org-reload) These are both not necessary in the general case and should probably not be attempted to be solved this way even in special circumstances. I'll say it a

Re: [O] LaTeX preview

2013-01-11 Thread Daimrod
Bastien writes: > Hi, > > Daimrod writes: > >> Here is a patch to add `org-startup-with-latex-preview'. It should work >> like `org-startup-with-inline-images'. > > Thanks for the patch. Did you already sign a FSF copyright assignment > or do you plan to sign one? > > http://orgmode.org/cgit.

Re: [O] [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b

2013-01-11 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: > Loading org-loaddefs.el through `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix' is > asking for troubles. I removed this. However, in a situation where this is indeed the problem, you actually don't solve it and it will just appear slightly later. Also, this change again breaks installs where

Re: [O] Inherited tags not visible in agenda

2013-01-11 Thread Bastien
Hi Karl, Karl Voit writes: > What is my problem that prevents inherited tags being visible in my > agenda? Please pull again -- I restored the default behavior. I'm a bit on a headache, so perhaps I've lost myself in the possibilities, and forgot to handle a case. If that's so just let me kno

Re: [O] Bug: org-mode tables and orgtbl-mode [7.9.2 (7.9.2-166-g40cb44-elpaplus @ /home/vdyadov/Work/Tools/emacs/share/emacs/24.2/lisp/org/)]

2013-01-11 Thread Bastien
Hi, vdya...@elvees.com (Дядов Васил Стоянов) writes: > The bug is easily reproducible with folowing algorithm: > > 1. I have an org file with verilog code embedded in >#+begin_src verilog >... >#+end_src > 2. Then I hit C-' to edit this verilog code in separate buffer > 3. During ed

Re: [O] [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b

2013-01-11 Thread Bastien
Hi Eric, Eric Schulte writes: > Great, thank you for running this to ground. After my last email I ran > into the problem again, but didn't have the energy to continue > debugging. Yeah, I know how depressing this can be.. > To follow up on the instillation instructions. Those in the manual

Re: [O] org agenda extensions

2013-01-11 Thread Bastien
Hi Thomas, Thomas Alexander Gerds writes: > with the aim to show properties in custom match views, I have been > experimenting with new variables: > > org-agenda-overriding-agenda-format > org-agenda-property-list > > then, tweaking the function org-scan-tags this enables custom format for > the

Re: [O] LaTeX preview

2013-01-11 Thread Bastien
Hi, Daimrod writes: > Here is a patch to add `org-startup-with-latex-preview'. It should work > like `org-startup-with-inline-images'. Thanks for the patch. Did you already sign a FSF copyright assignment or do you plan to sign one? http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/plain/request-ass

[O] bug#10125: RFE: require and load-path-shadowing

2013-01-11 Thread Achim Gratz
Stefan Monnier writes: >I guess we could fork Emacs early on and keep this second process >around as a "process from which to generate new clean slates". I've been thinking about something like this for a while… if it worked at least as well as starting a new Emacs instance on all platform

Re: [O] [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b

2013-01-11 Thread Eric Schulte
Bastien writes: > Hi Eric, > > actually, digging your problem further, I finally committed this > patch: http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/commit/?id=db7ece > Great, thank you for running this to ground. After my last email I ran into the problem again, but didn't have the energy to cont

[O] Bug: org-mode tables and orgtbl-mode [7.9.2 (7.9.2-166-g40cb44-elpaplus @ /home/vdyadov/Work/Tools/emacs/share/emacs/24.2/lisp/org/)]

2013-01-11 Thread Дядов Васил Стоянов
Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and what in fact did happen. You don't know how to make a good report? See http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list. -

Re: [O] Fixes for org-capture-templates-contexts

2013-01-11 Thread Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
By a great coincidence I just discovered org-capture-templates-contexts yesterday but could not make it work yet (didn't have much time to investigate it). Is it possible to have capture templates that do not appear in any buffer but can be called from lisp? The idea is that I'm implementing some

Re: [O] LaTeX preview

2013-01-11 Thread Daimrod
Bastien writes: > Hi Daimrod, > > Daimrod writes: > >> Is there an #+STARTUP parameter to automatically display LaTeX >> fragments? > > Nope, sorry. Here is a patch to add `org-startup-with-latex-preview'. It should work like `org-startup-with-inline-images'. diff --git a/doc/org.texi b/doc/or

[O] org agenda extensions

2013-01-11 Thread Thomas Alexander Gerds
Dear all with the aim to show properties in custom match views, I have been experimenting with new variables: org-agenda-overriding-agenda-format org-agenda-property-list then, tweaking the function org-scan-tags this enables custom format for the agenda lines, optionally showing properties (wi

Re: [O] Agenda and tags position

2013-01-11 Thread Igor Sosa Mayor
Am Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 01:29:41PM +0100, Bastien wrote: > This has been fixed in 7.9.3a -- let me know if you find out you still > have this problem with 7.9.3a. Hi Bastien, thanks a lot. Of course it is working. I am using the AUR package of archlinux and thought it is version 7.9.3a but it wa

Re: [O] Bug: bug in batch-execution example [7.8.11]

2013-01-11 Thread Bastien
Hi Michal, Michal Wallace writes: > On this page: > >    http://orgmode.org/manual/Batch-execution.html > > The example script is missing backticks around the pwd. You must have an old cached version of this page, please refresh the webpage. Thanks, -- Bastien

Re: [O] Agenda and tags position

2013-01-11 Thread Bastien
Hi Igor, Igor Sosa Mayor writes: > is org-agenda-tags-column still working? After the last stable version, > even if I change the value of this variable, the tags appear all the > time at the same position. This has been fixed in 7.9.3a -- let me know if you find out you still have this proble

Re: [O] [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b

2013-01-11 Thread Bastien
Hi Eric, actually, digging your problem further, I finally committed this patch: http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/commit/?id=db7ece Loading org-loaddefs.el through `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix' is asking for troubles. I removed this. Thanks for the time spent on this, -- Bastien

[O] Agenda and tags position

2013-01-11 Thread Igor Sosa Mayor
Hi, is org-agenda-tags-column still working? After the last stable version, even if I change the value of this variable, the tags appear all the time at the same position. many thanks in advance! Igor -- :: Igor Sosa Mayor :: joseleopoldo1...@gmail.com :: :: GnuPG: 0x1C1E2890 :: http://

Re: [O] #+STARTUP: content question

2013-01-11 Thread Bastien
Hi Luca, Luca Ferrari writes: > Is that possible using the #+STARTUP or org-startup-folded variable? No. You can play with the :VISIBILITY: property but we need something more flexible, I agree. On my todo list. -- Bastien

Re: [O] LaTeX preview

2013-01-11 Thread Bastien
Hi Daimrod, Daimrod writes: > Is there an #+STARTUP parameter to automatically display LaTeX > fragments? Nope, sorry. -- Bastien

Re: [O] [BUG] org-open-at-point fails with multiple links in entry

2013-01-11 Thread Bastien
Hi Ingo, Ingo Lohmar writes: > recently a common workflow of mine broke: I have an entry, and in the > text are several links to websites. I can go to the heading or its line > in an agenda and do `org-open-at-point', and I get a list of links > inside the entry. But selecting them all with RE

[O] Bug: bug in batch-execution example [7.8.11]

2013-01-11 Thread Michal Wallace
Hey all. I'm not sure where the original file is, and it's only a tiny change, so I'm not sure if this patch is useful, BUT... On this page: http://orgmode.org/manual/Batch-execution.html The example script is missing backticks around the pwd. Patch follows. ###

[O] #+STARTUP: content question

2013-01-11 Thread Luca Ferrari
Hi, I'd like to have my org files to show the contents of all the nodes that have (sub)items not marked as completed/done. Therefore the following: * FIRST ** second *** TODO blah *** DONE blah ** third *** DONE blah *** DONE blah should be shown when visiting the file as follows: * FIRST ** se

Re: [O] BBDB(3) or org-contacts

2013-01-11 Thread Karl Voit
* Michael Strey wrote: > On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 05:14:43PM +0100, Daniel Clemente wrote: > > [...] > >> Therefore I use its infrastructre (because I like it) but I don't run its >> code. I'll explain myself: >> I keep this structure in an .org file: >> ** John von Neumann

[O] LaTeX preview

2013-01-11 Thread Daimrod
Hi, Is there an #+STARTUP parameter to automatically display LaTeX fragments? If not, where do I have to look to add it? -- Daimrod/Greg pgpwOUfDZhYGv.pgp Description: PGP signature

[O] [BUG] org-open-at-point fails with multiple links in entry

2013-01-11 Thread Ingo Lohmar
Hi all, recently a common workflow of mine broke: I have an entry, and in the text are several links to websites. I can go to the heading or its line in an agenda and do `org-open-at-point', and I get a list of links inside the entry. But selecting them all with RET gives an error now: emacs -Q

Re: [O] [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b

2013-01-11 Thread Achim Gratz
Eric Schulte gmail.com> writes: > Alright, after adding the autoload declaration to the above function, > and running "make autoloads" in the checked out Org-mode directory, I am > able to load org.el successfully. I just committed this change. You are getting ahead of yourself, there is no need

Re: [O] [BUG] `org-load-noerror-mustsuffix´ is not defined, introduced by 5484a33b

2013-01-11 Thread Achim Gratz
Eric Schulte gmail.com> writes: > > and where do you set load-path? > > No load path customization, just those two lines above are enough to > cause the error. How do you expect Emacs to recognize that you'll want to use a different Org? > alright, starting with emacs -Q, evaluate the followin