Re: [elephant-devel] 4th European Lisp Workshop

2007-04-11 Thread Pierre THIERRY
Scribit Ian Eslick dies 11/04/2007 hora 13:44: > This sounds intriguing! I'm not sure what you mean by data model, > however. I did that in my very first application with Elephant. It was a real estate catalog. Several times, I had to add slots to the objects describing the products. All I had t

Re: [elephant-devel] 4th European Lisp Workshop

2007-04-11 Thread red daly
Ian Eslick wrote: You should check out Arthur Lemmon's Rucksack, it's architecture is much more ZODB like. A couple of people are also interested in doing an all-lisp data store for Elephant that gets rid of any license issues. I believe that it may be possible to make the native solution ru

Re: [elephant-devel] 4th European Lisp Workshop

2007-04-11 Thread Ian Eslick
You should check out Arthur Lemmon's Rucksack, it's architecture is much more ZODB like. A couple of people are also interested in doing an all-lisp data store for Elephant that gets rid of any license issues. I believe that it may be possible to make the native solution run faster than

Re: [elephant-devel] 4th European Lisp Workshop

2007-04-11 Thread Ian Eslick
This sounds intriguing! I'm not sure what you mean by data model, however. Do you mean change the underlying backing store? It wouldn't be hard to add something like this into the MOP data access protocol. I think there are some interesting issues surrounding how to handle this in an onl

Re: [elephant-devel] 4th European Lisp Workshop

2007-04-11 Thread Ben
this is an entirely anecdotal remark, not really relevant, but one of the original inspirations for elephant was a database system that was used in-house at a company i was at with andrew blumberg and other lisp hackers. i was doing java crap and was a complete lisp neophyte, and was amazed to se

Re: [elephant-devel] 4th European Lisp Workshop

2007-04-11 Thread Pierre THIERRY
Scribit Robert L. Read dies 09/04/2007 hora 18:43: > However, if someone else can go, I am also happy to help or to > co-author a paper with them. It occurred to me that the combination of persistence and the MOP goes far beyond anything else I know in terms of flexibility WRT to the data model.

Re: [elephant-devel] 4th European Lisp Workshop

2007-04-09 Thread Robert L. Read
I have to be at the Esperanto Conference in Tijuana at precisely those dates. However, if someone else can go, I am also happy to help or to co-author a paper with them. On Mon, 2007-04-09 at 13:50 -0400, Ian Eslick wrote: > All, > > I have been thinking about a paper on Elephant, but for the

Re: [elephant-devel] 4th European Lisp Workshop

2007-04-09 Thread Ian Eslick
All, I have been thinking about a paper on Elephant, but for the '08 Lisp conference after 1.0 is released and has had some time in the field. I'm not sure I could get to Berlin this summer anyway, but perhaps there's someone in Europe who would be willing to talk about this at an informa