Re: [elephant-devel] CLSQL Store

2009-01-27 Thread Robert Synnott
2009/1/27 Alex Mizrahi : > AP> I could redistribute that "core" as open source, and run > AP> my "script" (i.e. my website) "on top of" that. > > If you're using it only in your website, I think you don't even > need this open source mumbo-jumbo, as Oracle's license > only restricts _redistributi

Re: [elephant-devel] CLSQL Store

2009-01-27 Thread Alex Mizrahi
AP> I could redistribute that "core" as open source, and run AP> my "script" (i.e. my website) "on top of" that. If you're using it only in your website, I think you don't even need this open source mumbo-jumbo, as Oracle's license only restricts _redistribution_ but not use, and redistribution

Re: [elephant-devel] CLSQL Store

2009-01-26 Thread alain.picard
> -Original Message- > From: Ian Eslick [mailto:esl...@media.mit.edu] > > Well, this is advice is just about worth the bandwidth used > to download it... Duly noted. > > Elephant and Lisp are widely available open source platforms, > just like Python. If you are running an applic

Re: [elephant-devel] CLSQL Store

2009-01-26 Thread Ian Eslick
Well, this is advice is just about worth the bandwidth used to download it... Elephant and Lisp are widely available open source platforms, just like Python. If you are running an application on top of that platform, such as a networked service, I'm fairly certain you are as in the clear

Re: [elephant-devel] CLSQL Store

2009-01-26 Thread alain.picard
> -Original Message- > From: Ian Eslick [mailto:esl...@media.mit.edu] > Running BDB behind a website doesn't count as a > 'distribution' that requires disclosure of the website > source. The cgi discussion is a sub-case of this. > > This wouldn't apply to selling website frameworks

Re: [elephant-devel] CLSQL Store

2009-01-16 Thread Ian Eslick
Running BDB behind a website doesn't count as a 'distribution' that requires disclosure of the website source. The cgi discussion is a sub-case of this. This wouldn't apply to selling website frameworks or desktop software, of course. Of course if you are going to be making money it would

Re: [elephant-devel] CLSQL Store

2009-01-16 Thread Alex Mizrahi
ap> I'm deeply interested in finding out where Oracle states those ap> "friendly terms" you are referring to. Can you post a pointer? I meant the next paragraph in the same document: Do I have to pay for a Berkeley DB license to use it in my Perl or Python scripts? No, you may use the Be

Re: [elephant-devel] CLSQL Store

2009-01-15 Thread alain.picard
> -Original Message- > From: Alex Mizrahi [mailto:killerst...@newmail.ru] > > explanation on BDB's site says that if you, say, use Elephant > rather than BDB directly, and Elephant is open source, that > is enough to be eligible for a "free" BDB version. I simply do not see how you

Re: [elephant-devel] CLSQL Store

2009-01-13 Thread Leslie P. Polzer
> Is anyone still using the CL-SQL store? Robert and I have discussed > deprecating it in this or a future release, although SQLite support is > the only way to use Elephant with a cheap, free, easy to install/ > distribute backend. I would prefer to ditch CLSQL and SQLite altogether and put tha

Re: [elephant-devel] CLSQL Store

2009-01-04 Thread Yarek Kowalik
Great! Thanks for sharing this info. Yarek On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Ian Eslick wrote: > I found this same discussion several places on the web and both > Sleepcat and Oracle seem pretty supportive of the more generous > interpretation, which is nice! > > Ian > > On Jan 3, 2009, at 6:02 P

Re: [elephant-devel] CLSQL Store

2009-01-04 Thread Ian Eslick
I found this same discussion several places on the web and both Sleepcat and Oracle seem pretty supportive of the more generous interpretation, which is nice! Ian On Jan 3, 2009, at 6:02 PM, Alex Mizrahi wrote: > IE> Is anyone still using the CL-SQL store? > > the poll says no one, except on

Re: [elephant-devel] CLSQL Store

2009-01-03 Thread Alex Mizrahi
IE> Is anyone still using the CL-SQL store? the poll says no one, except one vote in "testing" section IE> release, although SQLite support is the only way to use Elephant with a IE> cheap, free, easy to install/ distribute backend. i think a backend using SQLite directly would make a lot of

[elephant-devel] CLSQL Store

2009-01-03 Thread Ian Eslick
Is anyone still using the CL-SQL store? Robert and I have discussed deprecating it in this or a future release, although SQLite support is the only way to use Elephant with a cheap, free, easy to install/ distribute backend. RE: BDB locks - you can increase the lock count pretty easily in th