Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google+

2014-03-15 Thread Daniel Foré
Nikos, Because google+ allows private posts. So if you're the intended recipient you'll be included there. Just like if someone sent you a specific email instead of the list. And re-read the last paragraph ;p Cheers, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Nikos Vasi

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google+

2014-03-15 Thread Nikos Vasilakis
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 9:26 PM, Daniel Foré wrote: > Hey everyone, > > As you've probably noticed, many of us are spending more and more time > interacting on G+ and Launchpad only and less time on IRC, the ML, etc. This > is because IRC and the ML suck and it's 2014 where we want to share things

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google+

2014-03-15 Thread Alfredo Hernández
Sounds like a logical move for me. Cheers, Alfredo On 16 Mar 2014 02:26, "Daniel Foré" wrote: > Hey everyone, > > As you've probably noticed, many of us are spending more and more time > interacting on G+ and Launchpad only and less time on IRC, the ML, etc. > This is because IRC and the ML suck

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-20 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
2014-02-20 17:18 GMT+04:00 Pepijn de Vos : It would be a huge help to have bugs labeled as easy and/or having a mentor > available. See Mozilla for an example: > https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Introduction > Actually, we at least used to have something similar - the easy bugs and the on

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-20 Thread Pepijn de Vos
I'll repeat this as I'm also guilty of not reply-all'ing (reply-to header anyone?) It would be a huge help to have bugs labeled as easy and/or having a mentor available. See Mozilla for an example: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Introduction I looked at the issue tracker for someth

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-19 Thread Nikos Vasilakis
This is a good point, and it is a universal challenge (in both open source and proprietary projects). It needs effort. But there must be correlation between successful projects and well-documented ones: If actively try to lower the barrier one needs to overcome to start working with elementary (bo

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-19 Thread Daniel Foré
The bigger problem than docs being boring is that the chance you're a writer, understand what you're writing, and also understand how to teach is extremely low. The google doc we started that one time was a complete piece of crap. Technical writing isn't just boring, it's incredibly difficult

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-19 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
2014-02-19 18:32 GMT+04:00 Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff < ser...@elementaryos.org>: > Finally, we have Contractor; we used to have .contract file format > documentation in the old website but it's now gone. > The Granite wrapper API is *sort of* documented in the Granite valadoc, > but the version i

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-18 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
We're missing a ton of other docs in the website too, but you know how it goes - writing docs is boring and everybody has better things to do. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launc

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-18 Thread Nikos Vasilakis
I believe you wanted to reply to all (which I do). I agree. In general, I believe that our contribution guidelines are broken. For coders in particular, heading to the developer section of the website has a light introduction to vala, but says nothing on how to actually contribute to elementary (i

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-18 Thread Nikos Vasilakis
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Nikos Vasilakis wrote: > I believe you wanted to reply to all (which I do). > > I agree. In general, I believe that our contribution guidelines are > broken. For coders in particular, heading to the developer section of > the website has a light introduction to val

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-15 Thread Nikos Vasilakis
Thanks, David. On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, David Gomes wrote: > We decided not to apply given that we need to give higher focus to > stabilizing our current projects and not just writing a bunch of new ones. > > > On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Nikos Vasilakis > wrote: >> >> Did we apply

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-15 Thread David Gomes
We decided *not* to apply given that we need to give higher focus to stabilizing our current projects and not just writing a bunch of new ones. On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Nikos Vasilakis wrote: > Did we apply, eventually? > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Daniel Foré > wrote: > > To be

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-15 Thread Nikos Vasilakis
Did we apply, eventually? On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Daniel Foré wrote: > To be clear, what I'm saying is maybe we shouldn't be trying to make up > stuff to do just to participate in Gsoc when we already have quite a lot to > do even though it doesn't fit into Gsoc > Cheers, > > Daniel Foré

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-14 Thread Daniel Foré
To be clear, what I'm saying is maybe we shouldn't be trying to make up stuff to do just to participate in Gsoc when we already have quite a lot to do even though it doesn't fit into Gsoc Cheers, Daniel Foré elementaryos.org On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Daniel Foré wrote: > This thread i

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-14 Thread Daniel Foré
This thread is starting to look and sound like just a massive distraction. We already have quite a lot of very important things to do. I think one of the most important of which is get AppCenter to a shippable state. New things are cool and fun and exciting, but if we really have the extra time

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-14 Thread Pepijn de Vos
This tread is just the best way of finding software I need :) Would be cool if they where more easily discoverable though. This was a good start: http://www.elementaryupdate.com/2013/08/top-things-to-do-after-installing-luna.html Elementary's new motto: There's a PPA for that! But... what's wr

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-14 Thread Nikos Vasilakis
Also, we have something similar, I believe: https://github.com/kjlaw89/draw On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 9:18 AM, Tristan Petersen wrote: > Pepijn, > > Are you familiar with the annotations feature of Mac OS X Preview app? It > does essentially what you describe. I use it all the time to quickly anno

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-14 Thread Tristan Petersen
Pepijn, Are you familiar with the annotations feature of Mac OS X Preview app? It does essentially what you describe. I use it all the time to quickly annotate screenshots or pdfs. Regards, Tristan > On Feb 14, 2014, at 3:41, Pepijn de Vos wrote: > > Another random idea, that is not a ripof

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-14 Thread Akshay Shekher
How about our alternative to UbuntuOne/Drop Box ? On Feb 14, 2014 4:11 PM, "Pepijn de Vos" wrote: > What I think the OP suggested Contractor for, and what shell scripting > does not provide is an API to GUI applications. > > In AppleScript you could move windows around, show pages in Safari, add

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-14 Thread Pepijn de Vos
What I think the OP suggested Contractor for, and what shell scripting does not provide is an API to GUI applications. In AppleScript you could move windows around, show pages in Safari, add events to iCal, play songs in iTunes. I implemented things like a tiling WM, a script to open links in

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-13 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
Well, there's a number of visual programming environments out there already and I can't see how this relates to elementary specifically. It's more of a project for the Raspberry Pi community. -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-13 Thread Marco Benzi
I was thinking about a visual programming experience for the end user who might be unfamiliar with bash. Also, depending on implementation, the app could reach beyond the scope of elementary, becoming useful for other distros. Just my two cents. Cheers, Marco El 13-02-2014, a las 9:53, Sergey

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-13 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
I've looked up Automator in Wikipedia and I can't see how that's related to Contractor. Contractor is designed to be operated by the user, its actions are not designed to be automatable. Actually, automating such actions is an unrelated problem, but IMHO shell scripting suits that use case just fi

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-13 Thread Marco Benzi
I was wondering, since Contractor is taking shape, how possible is it to do an app like Automator? Marco El 13-02-2014, a las 7:45, Aniket Deole escribió: > We already have Cable > (http://elementaryluna.blogspot.in/2012/08/cable-new-irc-chat-client.html) > But that is not an "official" eleme

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-13 Thread Aniket Deole
We already have Cable ( http://elementaryluna.blogspot.in/2012/08/cable-new-irc-chat-client.html) But that is not an "official" elementary app. - Aniket On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Pepijn de Vos wrote: > A proper IRC client. > > I know Empathy does IRC, but

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-13 Thread Pepijn de Vos
A proper IRC client. I know Empathy does IRC, but it is unsuitable for real use. Try opening a few dozen channels in its tabbed interface. Try idling in a busy channel. All the real IRC clients either *are* a terminal app,  or look like terminal app in a GTK window. Compare some screens from Te

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-12 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
FYI we already have a time machine application, Cronopete. The interesting work items for it are 1) btrfs snapshots or even old copy-on-write versions of files outside of snapshots as storage medium, instead of a dedicated partition and 2) Integration into applications, much like for Contractor cli

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-12 Thread Nikos Vasilakis
Great application everyone, I made a number of textual refinements to the GSOC text, hopefully beneficial! Someone with edit capability could pull them in the text (if the GSOC-related people agree). I haven't gone through the ideas yet. I will try to do it tonight and work on a "snapshots/time-m

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-11 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
OK, I have an idea that's been collecting the metaphorical dust for many a month. In a nutshell, the current "Open or Save?" dialogs in web browsers that they show when encountering a non-web file are terrible; how can I choose if I want to keep the file before I even see it? And why the hell can'

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer of Code Ideas

2014-02-11 Thread Cameron Norman
The first one that comes to mind is presentation software (like Ease, but obviously more mature). Another idea that has been floating around in my mind is an elementary HIG'd audio session manager (check out Gladish, Claudia, Non Session Manager for an example of what this is) that would stres

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer Of Code

2013-02-25 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
2013/2/25 Eduard Gotwig : > There are no fresh isos Yeah, so nobody really knows. But in theory it should be fixed. -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer Of Code

2013-02-25 Thread Eduard Gotwig
There are no fresh isos 2013/2/25 David Gomes > But is it fixed on fresh ISOs? > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff < > ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote: > >> 2013/2/25 Akshay Shekher : >> > About the root terminal Icon bug, I don't know how to fix it and nobody >

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer Of Code

2013-02-25 Thread David Gomes
But is it fixed on fresh ISOs? On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff < ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote: > 2013/2/25 Akshay Shekher : > > About the root terminal Icon bug, I don't know how to fix it and nobody > told > > me it wasn't possible. :-) > > It would be nice to have

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer Of Code

2013-02-25 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
2013/2/25 Akshay Shekher : > About the root terminal Icon bug, I don't know how to fix it and nobody told > me it wasn't possible. :-) > It would be nice to have it fixed though. It's been fixed for a while now, rejoice! "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and a reboot should get you the fix. If not, "sud

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer Of Code

2013-02-25 Thread David Gomes
I already asked eshat to unindex them from google using robots.txt or whatever, and he did it, they don't show on Google now (I think). On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Akshay Shekher wrote: > About the root terminal Icon bug, I don't know how to fix it and nobody > told me it wasn't possible.

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer Of Code

2013-02-25 Thread Akshay Shekher
About the root terminal Icon bug, I don't know how to fix it and nobody told me it wasn't possible. :-) It would be nice to have it fixed though. About GSoC, great idea we will get more attention and more attention mean more users & dev's. Teemperor: all our irc talks are documented for eternity

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer Of Code

2013-02-25 Thread Akshay Shekher
About the root terminal Icon bug, I don't know how to fix it and nobody told me it wasn't possible. :-) It would be nice to have it fixed though. About GSoC, great idea we will get more attention and more attention mean more users & dev's. Teemperor: all our irc talks are documented for eternity

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer Of Code

2013-02-24 Thread Teemperor
Hi everyone, i hope everyone is reading this thread carefully ;). The situation is the following, we have from 18 march to 29 march time to send our application. The schedule is here: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2013 (scroll down) I already created a Google Docs docum

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google Summer Of Code

2013-02-23 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
Regarding GSoC, Wikipedia and Google are your friends: https://developers.google.com/open-source/soc/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code There's plenty of blogposts from project maintainers about GSoC results for the projects too. And you can always drop into an IRC of some project

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google+ Hangouts on Air

2012-09-25 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
I'm not excited about the idea TBH. But if anybody wants me to be there, let me know and I'll try to borrow a webcam. -- Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff OS architect @ elementary -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-dev-community@lists.launchpad.ne

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google+ Hangouts on Air

2012-09-25 Thread Sam Tate
Here's the doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dy7KCYPzeGbAycJZYRFhTV38G5lKXRz8600Ms0ynXH0/edit I currently added a few people who came to mind for editing, but email me back if you want edit access :P Regards, Sam Tate On 25 September 2012 16:51, Daniel Foré wrote: > Yea I'm down. I'll ad

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google+ Hangouts on Air

2012-09-25 Thread Daniel Foré
Yea I'm down. I'll add it to my calendar :) On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Dane Henson wrote: > I can't guarantee I'll show, but it's the time with the highest > probability of me being there. Either way, I would love to see this > happen. It will benefit the devs, and benefit the surroundin

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google+ Hangouts on Air

2012-09-25 Thread Dane Henson
I can't guarantee I'll show, but it's the time with the highest probability of me being there.  Either way, I would love to see this happen.  It will benefit the devs, and benefit the surrounding community. On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 7:38 AM, Ivo Nunes wrote: OK to me. On 25 Sep 2012 10:48, "Sam

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google+ Hangouts on Air

2012-09-25 Thread Ivo Nunes
OK to me. On 25 Sep 2012 10:48, "Sam Tate" wrote: > So are we all OK for Saturday 29th at 16:00 GMT for the first one? > On 25 Sep 2012 01:52, "Daniel Fore" wrote: > >> I'm down. My schedule is pretty tight, but if it's planned ahead of time >> I'll be there. >> >> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:59

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google+ Hangouts on Air

2012-09-25 Thread Sam Tate
So are we all OK for Saturday 29th at 16:00 GMT for the first one? On 25 Sep 2012 01:52, "Daniel Fore" wrote: > I'm down. My schedule is pretty tight, but if it's planned ahead of time > I'll be there. > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Cassidy James > wrote: > > Just a quick reminder to make

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google+ Hangouts on Air

2012-09-24 Thread Daniel Fore
I'm down. My schedule is pretty tight, but if it's planned ahead of time I'll be there. On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Cassidy James wrote: Just a quick reminder to make sure you're choosing the correct timezone if you're responding to the Doodle poll; it'll localize everyone's times for yo

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google+ Hangouts on Air

2012-09-21 Thread Cassidy James
Just a quick reminder to make sure you're choosing the correct timezone if you're responding to the Doodle poll; it'll localize everyone's times for you when you're viewing it. Regards, Cassidy James -- Sent from *elementary OS* . On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Cas

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google+ Hangouts on Air

2012-09-21 Thread Cassidy James
To test the waters, I made a Doodle poll with some possible times for weekends. Although it has specific dates, just pay attention to the actual day. Make sure you expand it (there are a ton of options!). http://doodle.com/cb4if7ayg68gun6v Regards, Cassidy James -- Sent from *elementary OS*

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google+ Hangouts on Air

2012-09-21 Thread Voldyman
Very good idea. I was talking to munchor about this. On Sep 21, 2012, at 10:42 PM, Ivo Nunes wrote: > Sounds like a great idea! :) > > On 21 Sep 2012 18:09, "Sam Tate" wrote: > I'm thinking that we could do a weekly/fortnightly Google+ Hangout on Air > (like a live video podcast) about elemen

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google+ Hangouts on Air

2012-09-21 Thread Ivo Nunes
Sounds like a great idea! :) On 21 Sep 2012 18:09, "Sam Tate" wrote: > I'm thinking that we could do a weekly/fortnightly Google+ Hangout on Air > (like a live video podcast) about elementary. > > We could first start off with any news or interesting items, then talk > about concepts that we are

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Google+ Hangouts on Air

2012-09-21 Thread Cassidy James
Depending on the time we do it, I'd be up for it nearly every weekend. Perhaps we could switch off times so people from different timezones could get involved? Regards, Cassidy James -- Sent from *elementary OS* . On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Sam Tate wrote: >