Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary about dialog

Right, I'll look into it then somewhere in the near future. Op di, nov 20, 2012 at 10:18 ,Daniel Foré schreef: As in, not a hard dependency on Granite. So if Granite is available, it would build the granite version, but if it's not available it would build the stock GTK version. On Tue, Nov 2

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary about dialog

As in, not a hard dependency on Granite. So if Granite is available, it would build the granite version, but if it's not available it would build the stock GTK version. On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Jaap Broekhuizen wrote: > What do you mean by "conditionally"? :) > > Op di, nov 20, 2012 at

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary about dialog

What do you mean by "conditionally"? :) Op di, nov 20, 2012 at 10:07 ,Daniel Foré schreef: Hey Jaap, Yorba is willing to accept patches that conditionally add Granite support into Geary. So if someone wanted to write a patch (like we've done with ThinPaned) that would be fantastic :) IIRC, th

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary about dialog

Hey Jaap, Yorba is willing to accept patches that conditionally add Granite support into Geary. So if someone wanted to write a patch (like we've done with ThinPaned) that would be fantastic :) IIRC, the toolbar button problem is a result of their use of Glade. For some reason Glade is forcing ho

[Elementary-dev-community] Geary about dialog

Is geary going to have a Granite about dialog? Also the geary ToolButtons in the toolbar all seem to be wider than those in other apps, which breaks consistency. Do we have the "power" to change these things before luna-beta2? -- Jaap-- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-commun

[Elementary-dev-community] Geary 0.2

Hey everyone, As you may or may not know, Geary 0.2 is planned to land this Thursday. This is essentially Geary's beta1 milestone. If you have some extra time or just want a change of pace, I'm sure Yorba would appreciate if we can help them finish off this milestone :) http://redmine.yorba.org/p

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

Generic names may lack pizzazz, but they are good at providing quick descriptions of their functionality to new users. Also, generic names are usually very simple/clean (read: minimalist). Basically they're highly functional. On Sep 19, 2012 11:25 PM, "Brendan" wrote: > I think too many distros u

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

I think too many distros use generic names like this. I like the current names better. - mamemame187 On Sep 19, 2012 11:36 AM, "Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff" < ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote: > I'm all for using debranded apps too, but switching to showing GenericName > instead X-GNOME-Fullname alo

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

Haha, how did I know this would spawn a huge discussion? Like Cassidy said, I'm solely asking about how we feel about Geary in particular. I think we still need to come up with a more clear criteria of which apps get generic names and which ones get branded names. But it sounds like the general f

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

On Sep 19, 2012 2:20 PM, "Darcy Brás da Silva" wrote: > > Ok. this is a tricky subject. From my perspective, I see a great > advantage on de.branded apps it becomes easier to know what the program > does. > On the other end, That's why icons exist, to represent what the > application is/does. Havi

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

Ok. this is a tricky subject. From my perspective, I see a great advantage on de.branded apps it becomes easier to know what the program does. On the other end, That's why icons exist, to represent what the application is/does. Having that said, I think is far more beneficial to have all apps with

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

I just want to re-base this discussion on Geary, as that's what Dan is specifically asking about. I'm +1 on branding it as "Mail" on our desktop. We're sort of in the process of moving in that direction. That would mean its full name would be "Mail" and its generic name could be "Email Client" or

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

I'm all for using debranded apps too, but switching to showing GenericName instead X-GNOME-Fullname alone is not sufficient. Okay, let's say we have debranded apps. Now Totem is "Movie Player" and Audience is too. What happens if elementary OS user installs Totem or Ubuntu user installs Audience?

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

Well the name in the about box is just gonna be "Mail" too. It will probably have some elementary copyrights underneath showing that it is in fact out Mail app, and not Ubuntu or GNOME's. Anyway, it will probably be evident just from looking at it that it belongs to elementary. On 19 September 201

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

I +1 on Daniel and on Sam Tate too. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Mario Guerriero wrote: > As Sam Tate said, all the apps should be so in elementary OS. > > Mario Guerriero > Sent from iPhone 3GS > > On 19/set/2012, at 19:56, Ivo Nunes wrote: > > +1 > > On Qua, Set 19, 2012 at 6:55 , Sam Tat

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

As Sam Tate said, all the apps should be so in elementary OS. Mario Guerriero Sent from iPhone 3GS On 19/set/2012, at 19:56, Ivo Nunes wrote: > +1 > > On Qua, Set 19, 2012 at 6:55 , Sam Tate wrote: >> I want all the apps to be named what they do, so Dexter becomes Contacts, >> Noise becomes

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

+1 On Qua, Set 19, 2012 at 6:55 , Sam Tate wrote: I want all the apps to be named what they do, so Dexter becomes Contacts, Noise becomes Music, Midori becomes Web etc. It's so much easier for the users, and is what they'd expect. iOS and Android, OSX and GNOME all follow this trend, and while

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

I want all the apps to be named what they do, so Dexter becomes Contacts, Noise becomes Music, Midori becomes Web etc. It's so much easier for the users, and is what they'd expect. iOS and Android, OSX and GNOME all follow this trend, and while we aren't ones for doing something just because everyo

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

In principle, it sounds like the right thing to do from an user perspective. However, I wonder where you draw the line? Do you run the risk of creating more confusion when the Geary string pops up here and there (e.g. about dialog, help, etc). Where do you draw the line in the substitution? --tto

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

Yeah, we already have a long thread about it in list archives. 2012/9/19 Andrea Basso > I'm not opposed, "Mail" sound good. On the other hand I find it > inconsistent that we both have general names (like Files, Mail, Terminal, > etc...) and proper names (like Noise, Scratch, etc...). Using gene

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

I'm not opposed, "Mail" sound good. On the other hand I find it inconsistent that we both have general names (like Files, Mail, Terminal, etc...) and proper names (like Noise, Scratch, etc...). Using generic names may differentiate default apps from third-part ones. On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:5

[Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

Hey guys, I'd like to propose that in elementary we refer to Geary as "Mail" in Slingshot/Dock/etc. Simply because I feel like "Geary" doesn't really have anything to do with Mail and it's original intention was simply to be a code name. Any objections or strong desire to keep it "Geary"? Best R

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary

Ah, that makes sense.  I was trying to add a second team/user as a bug supervisor for Geary. I created a Yorba Bug Team and added yorba and rabbitbot-a.  I think we're good to go. Thanks! -- Jim On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff wrote: Hi Jim, Yes, there is, though

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary

Hi Sergey, I've activated Geary's bugs on Launchpad.  I went through the process of adding Rabbitbot-a to the Yorba team just to see what kind of fine-grained control I would have, but it appears there's not much -- it's either Admin or Approved, and I can't focus it as a bug maintainer specifi

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary

Thanks Jim! I've noticed the Geary project in Launchpad still doesn't have bug tracking enabled; you'll have to enable it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/geary to give Apport a place to submit the reports to. Since crash bugs are private by default, the maintainer of https://launchpad.net/geary shou

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary

Sergey, I know this has been a while, but I've been fighting fires and fixing bugs and had to put this off.  I've committed your patches and they should be available in our next daily build. http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/5696 http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/5697 Thanks! -- Jim On Wed, Aug

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary

Andrea, Keith, Brendan - It looks like you all had the same problem, but unfortunately I'm unable to reproduce it here at Yorba. Here's what I tried: 1. rm -rf ~/.local/share/geary 2. I ran Geary (build from git master) 3. I entered my username and the wrong password (as Andrea described) 4. Whe

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary

I know that this is not what this mailing list is for, but upon upgrading Geary to the latest version, I deleted the folder that had my username in ~/.local/share/geary and re-entered my info and it worked perfectly. On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Victor Eduardo wrote: There's a bug ticket fo

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary

There's a bug ticket for that BTW: http://redmine.yorba.org/issues/4835 On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff < ser...@elementaryos.org> wrote: > CC'ing Yorba, since Andrea didn't. Sounds like a great use case for > Apport, by the way :) > > 2012/8/26 Brendan : > > > > I als

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary

CC'ing Yorba, since Andrea didn't. Sounds like a great use case for Apport, by the way :) 2012/8/26 Brendan : > > I also get that problem even using the PPA ~ mamemame187 > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Keith Adair wrote: >> >> I'm having the same problem as Andrea. >> >> On Aug 23, 2012 1:1

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Keith Adair wrote: > I'm having the same problem as Andrea. > On Aug 23, 2012 1:18 PM, "Andrea Basso" wrote: > >> I've installed it following the steps explained in the wiki and >> everything went fine. >> Once started it ask for my mail and password (that's okay

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary

I'm having the same problem as Andrea. On Aug 23, 2012 1:18 PM, "Andrea Basso" wrote: > I've installed it following the steps explained in the wiki and everything > went fine. > Once started it ask for my mail and password (that's okay, but if I've > already set gmail, it could be a good idea to

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary

I've installed it following the steps explained in the wiki and everything went fine. Once started it ask for my mail and password (that's okay, but if I've already set gmail, it could be a good idea to ask for the username only and automatically add @gmail.com), I inserted by mistake a wrong

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary

2012/8/22 Eric Gregory > Apport's traces could be quite helpful. We do have a PPA for daily builds > for Geary and Shotwell. Would that help? How do we enable it? > > The daily build PPA is here, if that helps: > https://launchpad.net/~yorba/+archive/daily-builds/

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary

Apport's traces could be quite helpful. We do have a PPA for daily builds for Geary and Shotwell. Would that help? How do we enable it? The daily build PPA is here, if that helps: https://launchpad.net/~yorba/+archive/daily-builds/ - Eric On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:46 PM, Daniel Foré wrote: >

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary

I'm CCing the Geary team here. I know they have said they're not really a fan of launchpad, but automated crash reports from apport is definitely useful. Having Geary dailies in our daily PPA would probably be helpful going into beta. On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff <

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary

I'll try to set up Geary dailies in a personal PPA or even in elementary daily to make it easier to test it and keep up with the latest changes. By the way, I can enable Apport-based crash reporting for Geary, but the bugs will be submitted to Launchpad, and the package should be in elementary dai

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary

Talking about a new icon is already on the table :) On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:45 AM, David Gomes wrote: Does Geary even have an icon? I'm not talking from Geary, I tried it when 0.1 was out, but I had some issues with that. Dan, I'll give it another shot then :) On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:43 P

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary

Does Geary even have an icon? I'm not talking from Geary, I tried it when 0.1 was out, but I had some issues with that. Dan, I'll give it another shot then :) On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Daniel Fore wrote: > Hey guys, > > As you may or may not have heard, I'm going to be visiting Yorba once

[Elementary-dev-community] Geary

Hey guys, As you may or may not have heard, I'm going to be visiting Yorba once a week for a little bit to work with them on making Geary's next release (the one that we'll most likely be shipping in Luna) rock. If you weren't using Geary before, you should give it another shot. It's gained so