Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Add option in Gala to disable minimize

2012-09-20 Thread Daniel Foré
I don't think it's a terribly good idea to completely ban minimize while we're still in a transition period. I think Plank's current "hide/show" behavior makes sense for now and I'm not terribly inclined to monkey with it too much for Luna. We should revisit this in Luna +1 when we're more confid

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Thoughts on Pantheon Hide Mode

2012-09-20 Thread Daniel Foré
Right that's why I said I don't doubt it should be changed xD Best Regards, Daniel Foré El sep 20, 2012, a las 9:43 p.m., Cassidy James escribió: > Dan, > > The multi-display setup as-is is broken. If I maximize an app on a secondary > display and there's no app on the primary display, the d

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Thoughts on Pantheon Hide Mode

2012-09-20 Thread Cassidy James
Dan, The multi-display setup as-is is broken. If I maximize an app on a secondary display and there's no app on the primary display, the dock should *not* hide. Regards, Cassidy James On Sep 20, 2012 11:19 PM, "Daniel Foré" wrote: > I'm iffy on hiding the dock for *any* maximized window, but th

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Running App Indicators

2012-09-20 Thread Daniel Foré
Rico, The problem is that currently the theme is shared for all users, so you would need admin privileges to adjust this. Definitely not desirable. I've filed the bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/plank/+bug/1053801 On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Rico Tzschichholz wrote: > Cassidy, > > Pla

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Thoughts on Pantheon Hide Mode

2012-09-20 Thread Daniel Foré
I'm iffy on hiding the dock for *any* maximized window, but then again I personally think Maximized apps should be all alone on their workspace (and that's how I work) so it doesn't really affect me. I guess we'd have to ask people who use unfocused, maximized apps :p But I don't doubt that the mu

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Thoughts on Pantheon Hide Mode

2012-09-20 Thread Cody Garver
The only satisfying behavior I've found is to never hide the dock. On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Florian Reifschneider < flore2...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I do agree on changing the multi-display behavior, but I think it would be > irritating to hide the dock, if there is a maximized window o

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Thoughts on Pantheon Hide Mode

2012-09-20 Thread Cassidy James
Florian, That's what I was wondering, too. I'm undecided about it still. Regards, Cassidy James On Sep 20, 2012 5:33 PM, "Florian Reifschneider" wrote: > I do agree on changing the multi-display behavior, but I think it would be > irritating to hide the dock, if there is a maximized window on t

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Thoughts on Pantheon Hide Mode

2012-09-20 Thread Florian Reifschneider
I do agree on changing the multi-display behavior, but I think it would be irritating to hide the dock, if there is a maximized window on the current workspace with a not maximized window top of it that is focused. I do like to see my dock for notifications and stuff if I'm for example working in

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Thoughts on Pantheon Hide Mode

2012-09-20 Thread Cassidy James
Window dodge has been superseded by intellihide. Also, it's probably important to note the _current_ Pantheon hiding behavior: • Hide when the focused app is maximized. This makes hiding and multiple displays iffy, as well as causing the aforementioned issues. On Sep 20, 2012 5:04 PM, "Harvey Cab

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Thoughts on Pantheon Hide Mode

2012-09-20 Thread Harvey Cabaguio
Never mind, I was thinking of window dodge. Well, I don't think I would mind this change, +/- on it. On Sep 20, 2012 5:00 PM, "Harvey Cabaguio" wrote: > There was something like this on docky 2.0 no? > On Sep 20, 2012 4:45 PM, "Cassidy James" wrote: > >> Rico (rockstar developer who's been acti

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Thoughts on Pantheon Hide Mode

2012-09-20 Thread Harvey Cabaguio
There was something like this on docky 2.0 no? On Sep 20, 2012 4:45 PM, "Cassidy James" wrote: > Rico (rockstar developer who's been actively helping in the departments of > Gala and Plank) added a hide mode to our version of Plank that hides it > when the focused app is maximized (which is set a

[Elementary-dev-community] Thoughts on Pantheon Hide Mode

2012-09-20 Thread Cassidy James
Rico (rockstar developer who's been actively helping in the departments of Gala and Plank) added a hide mode to our version of Plank that hides it when the focused app is maximized (which is set as the default behavior in Luna). I've been using this and occasionally run into instances where the doc

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Add option in Gala to disable minimize

2012-09-20 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
2012/9/21 Nishant Agrwal > Okay, I think you're right. The dock's the correct place to start. How do > you feel about losing explicit minimize though? Do you guys think you can > live without it? Why should we? Taking it away is way more work than leaving it in place, so we'd better spend time

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Luna Update: Remaining Bugs

2012-09-20 Thread David Gomes
Thanks a lot Cody! 25 is more than the last time (23 IIRC). On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Cody Garver wrote: > I knew I forgot something, Files is there now too. That brings the total > to 25 bugs. > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Cody Garver wrote: > >> Since the launchpad link for the

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Add option in Gala to disable minimize

2012-09-20 Thread Nishant Agrwal
Okay, I think you're right. The dock's the correct place to start. How do you feel about losing explicit minimize though? Do you guys think you can live without it? On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:27 AM, Sergey Shnatsel Davidoff wrote: 2012/9/21 Nishant Agrwal About applications that want to hide o

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Add option in Gala to disable minimize

2012-09-20 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
2012/9/21 Nishant Agrwal > About applications that want to hide on close, don't they use other > mechanisms like for example, a music player would hide to the Sound Menu? > I'll answer with a quote: > In Ubuntu, many programs — Rhythmbox, Banshee, VLC, Pino, and Pidgin, to > name just five — pu

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Add option in Gala to disable minimize

2012-09-20 Thread Nishant Agrwal
My main reason for wanting this is to have a way to completely disable the possibility of minimize, even by clicking on the dock. It will encourage the user to use only workspaces for managing their windows. For example, if I am done with a browser window for the time being, but I want to keep it

[Elementary-dev-community] Can't build power plug

2012-09-20 Thread Chris Triantafillis
Hello, i'm trying to build power plug https://code.launchpad.net/~elementary-os/pantheon-plugs/power-plug but i get an error chris@chris-Aspire-5732Z:~/Projects/power-plug/build$ make Linking C executable power CMakeFiles/power.dir/src/power.c.o: In function `main': power.c:(.text+0x2dc3): undefi

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Add option in Gala to disable minimize

2012-09-20 Thread ttosttos Sa
Blurring the lines between minimize and close is a good vision that I'd expect it to face challenges in real life for Luna. While the user experience with elementary apps should be great, the reality is that the Luna experience may not be that smooth for many users that depend on more than just ele

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Luna Update: Remaining Bugs

2012-09-20 Thread Cody Garver
I knew I forgot something, Files is there now too. That brings the total to 25 bugs. On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Cody Garver wrote: > Since the launchpad link for the project-wide luna-beta1 milestone has > been down for a few days, I attempted to recreate it in a Google Doc. > > > https:/

[Elementary-dev-community] Luna Update: Remaining Bugs

2012-09-20 Thread Cody Garver
Since the launchpad link for the project-wide luna-beta1 milestone has been down for a few days, I attempted to recreate it in a Google Doc. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JwPkslcEW9Ocync8f7WTn021GWeVEcHw6ZoFEtJNsdw/edit If I missed anything, let me know. If you can't or don't want to view a

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Add option in Gala to disable minimize

2012-09-20 Thread Keith Adair
Sergey: +1 I think it's currently a bit confusing that  A. There is no minimize button B. Clicking on the app in Plank minimizes C. There is no indication that the app is running but minimized So I think there should be no one-click way to minimize for the user. If a user is desperately missing t

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Running App Indicators

2012-09-20 Thread Rico Tzschichholz
Cassidy, Plank doesn't actually support hiding the indicators. What I meant is if elementary decides to hide them then there should be a way to unhide them if needed. Which means the shell-plug would have to provide such an option (toggle between a reasonable indicator size and 0) Am 2012-09-20 1

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Use Apps/GNOME CONTROL CENTER Panels from GNOME 3.6

2012-09-20 Thread David Gomes
Until Luna is released, we will stick with GTK+ <= 3.4.x. Those apps require GTK+ 3.5 (soon 3.6) to build, so I don't think they can be integrated. I think we should just fix our own plugs even if that takes longer. On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Eduard Gotwig wrote: > Hey, I suggest to use th

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Running App Indicators

2012-09-20 Thread Cassidy James
Rico, Functionally that's the same, sure. But I think the idea is that it should be a setting instead of a theming hack. Users should be able to say, "I want to display running indicators" and flip a switch to do so. On Sep 20, 2012 10:44 AM, "Rico Tzschichholz" wrote: > Setting the size to 0 is

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Running App Indicators

2012-09-20 Thread Rico Tzschichholz
Setting the size to 0 is fairly the same as having them disabled. So I don't really see the need in such an extra key, although adding one is easy. If you insist please file an elementary-tagged bug. Rico Am 20.09.2012 01:49, schrieb Daniel Foré: > Well the idea is that our default apps already m

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Running App Indicators

2012-09-20 Thread Andrea Basso
Just to add something, indicators are also useful to show that an app has requested your attention while you were away (for example, if you were pinged on irc), so I'd say the red one should remain. About "normal" ones I agree with shnatsel, let's keep them till we can provide a real no-minimize en

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Add option in Gala to disable minimize

2012-09-20 Thread Sergey "Shnatsel" Davidoff
2012/9/20 Nishant Agrwal > What do you guys think of this: > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/gala/+spec/option-to-disable-minimize > I can't see the point of that personally. Could you provide an example use case in which disabling minimize on the WM side is better than leaving things as they a

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Geary Naming

2012-09-20 Thread Craig
Generic names may lack pizzazz, but they are good at providing quick descriptions of their functionality to new users. Also, generic names are usually very simple/clean (read: minimalist). Basically they're highly functional. On Sep 19, 2012 11:25 PM, "Brendan" wrote: > I think too many distros u

[Elementary-dev-community] Use Apps/GNOME CONTROL CENTER Panels from GNOME 3.6

2012-09-20 Thread Eduard Gotwig
Hey, I suggest to use the printers panel in switchboard from GNOME 3.6. It does integrate into the main window, and does not start an extra window: https://live.gnome.org/Design/SystemSettings/Printers Checkout the "mockups". I can't make a screenshot right now, I'm sry, but there is not an extra

Re: [Elementary-dev-community] Running App Indicators

2012-09-20 Thread Jakob Eriksson
+1 on this and +1 on de-branded names on apps. On September 19, 2012 at 8:00 PM Sam Tate wrote: > In the long run (L+1 or even L+2), I want there to be no difference between > an open and closed app -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~elementary-dev-community Post to : elementary-