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2007-07-13 Thread Sandy
ff the market. He MUST have enough money by now? 73, Sandy W5TVW Used to love playing with Zilog Z-80 machine code. - Original Message - From: "Bill Coleman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Fred (FL)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 7:53

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2007-07-13 Thread Mike B
Gentlemen, not to be a list cop, but good grief. Eric closed this thread over a month ago. Let it die, or take it to some Yahoo group. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber I

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2007-07-13 Thread Bill Coleman
On Jul 13, 2007, at 9:14 PM, Gary Montalbine wrote: Switch to OpenOffice. Its free and works. I'm really hoping the next version of iWork includes a spreadsheet Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!"

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2007-07-13 Thread Gary Montalbine
Bill Coleman wrote: From the book "Programmers at Work" (c 1985), Gates talked at length about some of his programming and design tasks. One that stays with me is the bit about how Excel implements Cut, Copy, Paste. He came up with some clever behavior to limit the amount of temporary memo

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2007-07-13 Thread Bill Coleman
On Jun 3, 2007, at 4:02 PM, Doug Person wrote: Bill bought QDOS for $40,000 cash and some vague promises about further deals. Many, many companies have looked back at their dealings with Bill and realized they've been had. BigTime. The dirty dealings with IBM are by far the worst thing o

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2007-07-13 Thread Bill Coleman
On Jun 3, 2007, at 1:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's the story I remember. Gates has been great at acquiring other peoples projects and turning them into gold..I'm not sure he's ever actually written a line of code! Gates certainly did write code back in the early, early days of M

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2007-07-13 Thread Bill Coleman
On Jun 3, 2007, at 7:54 AM, Fred (FL) wrote: And Bill Gates empire was launched, and IBM got its first DOS contract from Gates - and IBM's PC was launched. And in 1981 - the whole PC world, as we now know it was started. CP/M was also on the runway - but big blue, killed it at the gate. Suppo

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2007-06-04 Thread Julian G4ILO
On 6/4/07, Don Rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is the unfortunate result of too many folks waiting too long for some new scrap of information about their new K3 radios. Off topic posts and even worse, people choosing up sides over Bill Gates. This is very true. A solution might be for

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2007-06-03 Thread Don Rasmussen
ED]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans . From: W2AGN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 23:08:03 -0300 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Delivered-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-to: elecraft@mailman.qth.net In-reply-to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-archive:

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2007-06-03 Thread Craig Rairdin
> So how many people on this reflector haven't posted to this thread? Most. <30 posts >2000 members. But at last: A hot, off-topic thread that I neither started nor threw gasoline on. :-) Craig NZ0R ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.

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2007-06-03 Thread Michael B
So how many people on this reflector haven't posted to this thread? -- W2CVZ, Michael K1#2343 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): htt

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2007-06-03 Thread W2AGN
"Mark Bayern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (06/03/2007 22:18) >No need to be so cynical. > >My guess (and it is just a guess) is that Eric actually spends some >time away from the mail list, and he hasn't seen this thread yet. > >I expect it will be put back on topic, or ended in a day or two. > >M

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2007-06-03 Thread Mark Bayern
I wasn't really complaining. I just am trying to figure out what is considered "off-topic" and what is not. It appears to be a perplexing puzzle on many email reflectors. I have determined that a topic will be quashed as "off-topic" IF: ... No need to be so cynical. My guess (and it is just a g

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2007-06-03 Thread David Wilburn
You mean beside their decision to integrate the browser with the operating system Bad Bill, no cookie... David Wilburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] K4DGW K2 #5982 Doug Person wrote: Bill Gates has written lots of code. He is (or at least was) a truly outstanding programmer. Years ago he was known

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2007-06-03 Thread David Wilburn
I worked at IBM in Boca Raton at the time. An acquaintance, broke into the section behind where our systems were (at the time IBM had just started their luggable, to compete with Osbourne) and stole engineering diagrams and system information. He flew to California, and tried to sell it to Os

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2007-06-03 Thread Julian G4ILO
On 6/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's the story I remember. Gates has been great at acquiring other peoples projects and turning them into gold..I'm not sure he's ever actually written a line of code! Doug W6JD I know this is off-topic, and I'm no big fan of Microsof

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2007-06-03 Thread Sandy
L PROTECTED]> Cc: "Elecraft" Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans . Bill Gates has written lots of code. He is (or at least was) a truly outstanding programmer. Years ago he was known to review code, find something he didn&

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2007-06-03 Thread Thom LaCosta
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, W2AGN wrote: on many email reflectors. I have determined that a topic will be quashed as "off-topic" IF: 1. It expresses an opinion contrary to that of the list owner/moderator. 2. It criticizes a "Scared Cow" such as ARRL, etc. 3. It upsets someone enough that they send co

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2007-06-03 Thread W2AGN
Thom LaCosta wrote: On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, W2AGN wrote: I know I must be missing something. I see this thread going on and on. I note Eric hasn't jumped on it and ordered its termination, so it must have a relationship to Elecraft, or at least Ham Radio, but I am too dumb to see it. You need t

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2007-06-03 Thread Thom LaCosta
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, W2AGN wrote: I know I must be missing something. I see this thread going on and on. I note Eric hasn't jumped on it and ordered its termination, so it must have a relationship to Elecraft, or at least Ham Radio, but I am too dumb to see it. You need to open your horizons J

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2007-06-03 Thread Doug Person
Bill Gates has written lots of code. He is (or at least was) a truly outstanding programmer. Years ago he was known to review code, find something he didn't like and call up the programmer and give 'em hell. MS Programmers have also been known to suddenly receive bonuses as stock options bec

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2007-06-03 Thread W2AGN
I know I must be missing something. I see this thread going on and on. I note Eric hasn't jumped on it and ordered its termination, so it must have a relationship to Elecraft, or at least Ham Radio, but I am too dumb to see it. Is the K3 going to have MSDOS built in? Did Bill Gates design the

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2007-06-03 Thread peter gerba
--Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 12:55 PM To: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans . That's the story I remember. Gates has been great at acquiring other p

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2007-06-03 Thread John [K7SVV]
execute a CALL to address 0004 and away you went. PCDOS 2.0 change all of that. John [K7SVV] - Original Message - From: "Brian Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Fred (FL)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:44 AM Subject: Re:

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2007-06-03 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 6/3/07 1:44:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Bill Gates of Microsoft assured IBM that Microsoft had a replacement > for CP/M-86 even though they really didn't. (Ah, vapor-ware has been > with us for a LONG time.) Microsoft then quickly purchased the

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2007-06-03 Thread Thomas Butchers
When I worked for Dominion Semiconductor (Toshiba/IBM joint venture) one of the IBM engineers related that same story to me. Basically Gates didn't have anything but knew where to get it. Even as an 18 year old geek is was a shrewd businessman. Tom kf4yyd > -- Original message ---

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2007-06-03 Thread w6jd
That's the story I remember. Gates has been great at acquiring other peoples projects and turning them into gold..I'm not sure he's ever actually written a line of code! Doug W6JD -- Original message -- From: Brian Lloyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Jun 3, 2007, at 4:5

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2007-06-03 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Jun 3, 2007, at 4:54 AM, Fred (FL) wrote: And Bill Gates empire was launched, and IBM got its first DOS contract from Gates - and IBM's PC was launched. The way I remember it, IBM decided they wanted a version of CP/M for their new Intel 8086-based system and went to Digital Research.

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2007-06-03 Thread R. Kevin Stover
Fred (FL) wrote: > And Bill Gates empire was launched, and IBM got > its first DOS contract from Gates - and IBM's PC was > launched. And in 1981 - the whole PC world, > as we now know it was started. CP/M was also > on the runway - but big blue, killed it at the > gate. Supposedly Gates bought t

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2007-06-03 Thread Fred (FL)
And Bill Gates empire was launched, and IBM got its first DOS contract from Gates - and IBM's PC was launched. And in 1981 - the whole PC world, as we now know it was started. CP/M was also on the runway - but big blue, killed it at the gate. Supposedly Gates bought the guts of DOS or PC BASIC, f

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2007-06-02 Thread Bill Coleman
On Mar 3, 2007, at 11:23 AM, John Young wrote: If my memory is still working I recall Osbone made a very nice CP/M computer in the dark ages. When the owner announced that the next model would be IBM PC compatible, all orders for the CP/M system ended and the company went broke. In the busin

Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans ..... NEW STUFF

2007-03-03 Thread Bill NY9H
what fun would it be to go to DAYTON and the QRP FDIM "four days in May" conference and NOT see the latest new stuff from Elecraft. opportunities such as Dayton ALWAYS have held the initial introduction of BIG NEW PRODUCTS. companies strive to "get er done" to show at Dayton, whether it be

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2007-03-03 Thread Fred (FL)
NO BEANS ... Sounds like everyone is a happy camper. Forget the new products. I'm about the same vintage as Don. I recall my Dad, W2PZW, never got past his treasured Halicrafters receiver, end fed Zep, and plate modulator .. that's all the technology he wanted. His best ham buddy h

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2007-03-03 Thread John Young
On 3/3/07, Sam Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Fred (FL) wrote: > Without spilling the beans, or showing one's hand - > could Elecraft give us a better view of how new > products may happen in the future? Does Elecraft > have a goal of other transceivers, updated transceiver > products? Could

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2007-03-03 Thread Sam Morgan
Fred (FL) wrote: Without spilling the beans, or showing one's hand - could Elecraft give us a better view of how new products may happen in the future? Does Elecraft have a goal of other transceivers, updated transceiver products? Could (could) there be new near-term HF product kits in the futu

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2007-03-03 Thread Ken Kopp
I hope Elecraft doesn't get too carried away with new products ... to their detriment ... like Detroit. Detroit's attitude guarnteed the German and Japanese auto manufacturer's success. (I've owned 17 VW's) One doesn't have to look very far to see companies that have gone too far too fast on

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2007-03-03 Thread John D'Ausilio
They could tell you .. but then they'd have to kill you :) de w1rt/john On 3/3/07, Fred (FL) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Could you give us a view of Elecraft's new HF product(s) goals, and perhaps plans. For whatever the reason - Elecraft was very vocal and open about their work in new HF amps.