On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 08:26:04PM +0100, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 at 18:52, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:39:01AM +0100, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > > On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 at 09:28, Lucas Stach wrote:
> > > > So we are kind of stuck here between breaking one or
Hi,
On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 at 10:43, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 9:26 PM Daniel Stone wrote:
> > It's not just etnaviv, it's literally every Mesa driver which works
> > with decoupled render/display. So that would be etnaviv-v2,
> > panfrost-v2, panthor-v2, v3d-v2, powervr-v2, ...
On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 9:26 PM Daniel Stone wrote:
>
> On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 at 18:52, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:39:01AM +0100, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > > On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 at 09:28, Lucas Stach wrote:
> > > > So we are kind of stuck here between breaking one or the oth
On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 at 18:52, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:39:01AM +0100, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 at 09:28, Lucas Stach wrote:
> > > So we are kind of stuck here between breaking one or the other use-
> > > case. I'm leaning heavily into the direction of j
On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:39:01AM +0100, Daniel Stone wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 at 09:28, Lucas Stach wrote:
> > Mesa doesn't cope right now. Mostly because of the renderonly thing
> > where we magically need to match render devices to otherwise render
> > incapable KMS devices. The w
On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:42:24AM +0300, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 09:26:40AM GMT, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Thu, May 09, 2024 at 05:41:18PM +0300, Oded Gabbay wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 09, 2024 at 03:53:01PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> > > > Oded, Dave,
> > > >
> > > >
Hi,
On Wed, 26 Jun 2024 at 09:28, Lucas Stach wrote:
> Mesa doesn't cope right now. Mostly because of the renderonly thing
> where we magically need to match render devices to otherwise render
> incapable KMS devices. The way this matching works is that the
> renderonly code tries to open a scree
On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 09:26:40AM GMT, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Thu, May 09, 2024 at 05:41:18PM +0300, Oded Gabbay wrote:
> > On Thu, May 09, 2024 at 03:53:01PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> > > Oded, Dave,
> > >
> > > Do you have an opinion on this?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Tomeu
> > Hi
Am Mittwoch, dem 26.06.2024 um 09:28 +0200 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 07:01:05PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> > Hi Lucas,
> >
> > Do you have any idea on how not to break userspace if we expose a render
> > node?
>
> So if you get a new chip with an incompatible 3d block, y
On Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 07:01:05PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> Hi Lucas,
>
> Do you have any idea on how not to break userspace if we expose a render node?
So if you get a new chip with an incompatible 3d block, you already have
that issue. And I hope etnaviv userspace can cope.
Worst case you
On Thu, May 09, 2024 at 05:41:18PM +0300, Oded Gabbay wrote:
> On Thu, May 09, 2024 at 03:53:01PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> > Oded, Dave,
> >
> > Do you have an opinion on this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tomeu
> Hi Tomeu,
>
> Sorry for not replying earlier, I was down with Covid (again...).
>
Hi Lucas,
Do you have any idea on how not to break userspace if we expose a render node?
Cheers,
Tomeu
On Wed, Jun 12, 2024 at 4:26 PM Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
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> On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 1:19 PM Daniel Stone wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Mon, 20 May 2024 at 08:39, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> > > On Fr
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 1:19 PM Daniel Stone wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 20 May 2024 at 08:39, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> > On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 10:34 AM Lucas Stach wrote:
> > > Am Mittwoch, dem 24.04.2024 um 08:37 +0200 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso:
> > > > If we expose a render node for NPUs without ren
Hi,
On Mon, 20 May 2024 at 08:39, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 10:34 AM Lucas Stach wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, dem 24.04.2024 um 08:37 +0200 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso:
> > > If we expose a render node for NPUs without rendering capabilities, the
> > > userspace stack will offer it to co
On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 10:34 AM Lucas Stach wrote:
>
> Hi Tomeu,
>
> Am Mittwoch, dem 24.04.2024 um 08:37 +0200 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso:
> > If we expose a render node for NPUs without rendering capabilities, the
> > userspace stack will offer it to compositors and applications for
> > rendering, wh
Hi Lucas,
On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 10:34 AM Lucas Stach wrote:
>
> Hi Tomeu,
>
> Am Mittwoch, dem 24.04.2024 um 08:37 +0200 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso:
> > If we expose a render node for NPUs without rendering capabilities, the
> > userspace stack will offer it to compositors and applications for
> > re
Hi Tomeu,
Am Mittwoch, dem 24.04.2024 um 08:37 +0200 schrieb Tomeu Vizoso:
> If we expose a render node for NPUs without rendering capabilities, the
> userspace stack will offer it to compositors and applications for
> rendering, which of course won't work.
>
> Userspace is probably right in not
On Thu, May 09, 2024 at 03:53:01PM +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> Oded, Dave,
>
> Do you have an opinion on this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tomeu
Hi Tomeu,
Sorry for not replying earlier, I was down with Covid (again...).
To your question, I don't have an objection to what you are
suggesting. My personal
Oded, Dave,
Do you have an opinion on this?
Thanks,
Tomeu
On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 8:10 AM Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 8:59 PM Jeffrey Hugo wrote:
> >
> > On 4/24/2024 12:37 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> > > If we expose a render node for NPUs without rendering capabilities, th
On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 8:59 PM Jeffrey Hugo wrote:
>
> On 4/24/2024 12:37 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
> > If we expose a render node for NPUs without rendering capabilities, the
> > userspace stack will offer it to compositors and applications for
> > rendering, which of course won't work.
> >
> > Us
On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 1:32 PM Christian Gmeiner
wrote:
>
> Hi Tomeu,
>
> >
> > If we expose a render node for NPUs without rendering capabilities, the
> > userspace stack will offer it to compositors and applications for
> > rendering, which of course won't work.
> >
> > Userspace is probably ri
On 4/24/2024 12:37 AM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
If we expose a render node for NPUs without rendering capabilities, the
userspace stack will offer it to compositors and applications for
rendering, which of course won't work.
Userspace is probably right in not questioning whether a render node
might n
Hi Tomeu,
>
> If we expose a render node for NPUs without rendering capabilities, the
> userspace stack will offer it to compositors and applications for
> rendering, which of course won't work.
>
> Userspace is probably right in not questioning whether a render node
> might not be capable of supp
If we expose a render node for NPUs without rendering capabilities, the
userspace stack will offer it to compositors and applications for
rendering, which of course won't work.
Userspace is probably right in not questioning whether a render node
might not be capable of supporting rendering, so cha
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