Re: [Dovecot] Manual thread breaking from Thunderbird

2008-05-07 Thread rosenfield . albert
Christian Jaeger wrote: > I'm looking for a way to manually break threads apart when independent > threads are mixed up, mostly by users which aren't aware that they should > not be replying to existing threads when starting a new one. Sounds like a great idea! I'm curious though, how do convinc

[Dovecot] thunderbird sane config (OT)

2008-05-07 Thread rosenfield . albert
Does anyone have any experience putting together a sane config for Thunderbird in an automated fashion? Automated meaning "simple to distribute to users". -- (Background: I'm currently experiencing that Thunderbird does not work against Postfix/Dovecot because the wizard interface for setting up

Re: [Dovecot] Manual thread breaking from Thunderbird

2008-05-07 Thread rosenfield . albert
Bill Cole: > Dovecot isn't really a player in that question, which is really about how > to make TBird do what you want it to do with messages and present > them in a particular organizational style. Well, Dovecot "deliver" puts the messages in place, and you want incoming messages to land in the

Re: [Dovecot] thunderbird sane config (OT)

2008-05-07 Thread rosenfield . albert
Charles Marcus wrote: > So, you'll have to write up simple instructions for new users on how to set > up their new accounts... > > I have something for this if you'd like a copy (request privately)... Thanks, but that was kind of the step I was trying to avoid ;).. What I had in mind was more l

Re: [Dovecot] Manual thread breaking from Thunderbird

2008-05-07 Thread rosenfield . albert
> Mail.app and Evolution at least. > And doesn't Outlook also support them nowadays? Ah, you mean "saved search" containers in the tree view? Thunderbird has these too. Doesn't quite make it Gmail though. I mean, it's a cute feature, but it does not modify the work flow drastically enough to be

Re: [Dovecot] Manual thread breaking from Thunderbird

2008-05-07 Thread rosenfield . albert
> I haven't used it myself, but .. If you're interested in the client part of mailing, perhaps create a dummy account, join the dovecot and postfix mailing lists, create two new filter rules that apply either "postfix" or "dovecot" labels and archives (= unapplies "Inbox" label) messages depending

Re: [Dovecot] Manual thread breaking from Thunderbird

2008-05-07 Thread rosenfield . albert
> delivered anywhere other than INBOX, you need to either call deliver with a > -m argument or use a plugin (e.g. sieve) and as far as I can tell, only the Fair enough. (Could never get sieve (cmusieve) to work with Dovecot - what does other people use that's simple to set up and works efficientl

Re: [Dovecot] Manual thread breaking from Thunderbird

2008-05-07 Thread rosenfield . albert
> I've a test account which I've used a couple of times, but haven't > bothered too much with it. Guess it's not for everyone. (Personally, I dislike that my email is stored at Googleplex, and that I cannot fiddle with the server setup. Otherwise, it's pretty darn great.) > > > With Dovecot it

Re: [Dovecot] Manual thread breaking from Thunderbird

2008-05-07 Thread rosenfield . albert
> The configured virtual mailbox would look exactly > like a normal mailbox to the client. The advantage being that Dovecot would index messages in all physical folders for super-fast access when asking via IMAP for messages relating to a specific thread-id. (Hope I got this right.) In case I w

Re: [Dovecot] Manual thread breaking from Thunderbird

2008-05-07 Thread rosenfield . albert
> That could be one use case, but since no clients do that I doubt it's a > very useful one for a while. :) I'm mostly thinking about using virtual > mailboxes for custom webmails, at least initially. ;-).. I find it to be a problem that you're the one who decides what it's useful for and what i

Re: [Dovecot] Manual thread breaking from Thunderbird

2008-05-07 Thread rosenfield . albert
> No idea. Would be at least useful to have a standard to base it on. Of > course no-one prevents you from coding it sooner. :) Gonna be tough to squeeze in between all the updates that needs to be done to the MUA. Hopefully it doesn't take more than 5 minutes to set up a Thunderbird build enviro

Re: [Dovecot] thunderbird sane config (OT)

2008-05-08 Thread rosenfield . albert
Thanks for all the responses. The simplest approach in my situation seems to be the XPI one, where users can install an XPI into Thunderbird and get a template that requires only entering username and password. Haven't figured how to put the CA certificate that Dovecot uses for SSL IMAP into the

Re: [Dovecot] thunderbird sane config (OT)

2008-05-15 Thread rosenfield . albert
Moser wrote: > Isn't this one click at accessing the server the first time!? > "Accept this certificate permanently"? I think the certificate needs to be constructed in a certain way (include some CA parts? be signed with itself? not sure) before you can do this. I haven't made it work yet :-/.