Re: [Dovecot] use of deliver from procmail advisable?

2007-08-14 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Tuesday, August 14 at 02:28 PM, quoth Charles Marcus: Well, the whole point of sieve, I believe, is to make it something that an admin would want to let arbitrary users modify on their own recognizance, and the ability to specify arbitrary programs to run would be just *asking* to be hacked.

Re: [Dovecot] use of deliver from procmail advisable?

2007-08-14 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Tuesday, August 14 at 10:40 PM, quoth Timo Sirainen: On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 19:03 +0200, martin f krafft wrote: Does anyone have hard facts on how much the server process loses if it encounters a folder with an index inconsistency? With v1.0 deliver doesn't do much since it doesn't update ca

Re: [Dovecot] use of deliver from procmail advisable?

2007-08-16 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Wednesday, August 15 at 06:08 PM, quoth martin f krafft: This is exactly how I used to have it but then the need for a vacation autoresponse to the From: address (as opposed to Return-Path) arose and I had to switch to procmail: http://dovecot.org/list/dovecot/2007-August/024766.html Before

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot fails almost every 20 minutes exactly

2007-08-20 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Sunday, August 19 at 02:13 PM, quoth Patrick - South Valley Internet: Now that we're in the production environment, we've noticed that every 20 minutes, Dovecot will stop running. Meaning what? Is the dovecot process still alive? Is the service unresponsive? Is it just not allowing logins?

Re: [Dovecot] UW-IMAP to Dovecot conversion - How to migrate the folders?

2007-08-20 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Monday, August 20 at 04:07 PM, quoth Patrick - South Valley Internet: I have, but it didn't do anything that I could tell. I tried resyncing my IMAP but I didn't see the new folder. Does it matter that the UW-IMAP folders are in mbox-like format? It appears each "folder" is a single file,

Re: [Dovecot] UW-IMAP to Dovecot conversion - How to migrate the folders?

2007-08-22 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Tuesday, August 21 at 02:06 PM, quoth Patrick - South Valley Internet: Thanks Kyle, but how do I convert the mbox-like IMAP folders into something Dovecot can read with the new config? One way (the most straightforward) is to use any of the available mbox-to-maildir converter scripts. Searc

Re: [Dovecot] UW-IMAP to Dovecot conversion - How to migrate the folders?

2007-08-22 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Tuesday, August 21 at 02:15 PM, quoth Patrick - South Valley Internet: What's even more odd is that when I created a new folder within Outlook Express, I see it in /home/USERNAME/Maildir/subscriptions, but I don't see the folder anywhere...how does Dovecot see these IMAP folders? Is there s

Re: [Dovecot] removing IMAP keywords?

2007-08-23 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Thursday, August 23 at 05:14 PM, quoth martin f krafft: Also, does someone know where I can find specification on what characters are allowed for keywords? RFC 3501 is strangely quiet on this, or I am blind. Check out section 9, Formal Syntax. Specifically, "flag-keyword", which is defined

Re: [Dovecot] o/s tuning for imap

2007-09-06 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Tuesday, September 4 at 08:26 PM, quoth Russell E. Meek: OS related tweaks, probably not. However you could utilize a imap proxy such as up-imapproxy which if using FreeBSD is in ports. Visit: http://www.imapproxy.org/ to learn more. This should relieve the load on Dovecot. We found tha

Re: [Dovecot] o/s tuning for imap

2007-09-06 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Tuesday, September 4 at 12:16 PM, quoth Ken A: I'm switching from a pop3 only dovecot install to a pop3/imap install and I'm wondering how many connections every 100 'normal' imap users might have/keep open? Mmmm, I usually estimate that most of the time users keep one connection open. Oc

Re: [Dovecot] o/s tuning for imap

2007-09-07 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Thursday, September 6 at 02:59 PM, quoth Ken A: We found that on our server, *not* using imapproxy improved our performance. We used to use imapproxy to great effect when we were using BincIMAP, but Dovecot is so darn fast (and caches its own authentication) that all imapproxy added was add

[Dovecot] SORT(DATE) and missing Date headers

2007-09-24 Thread Kyle Wheeler
Hello, Occasionally, I get mail that's missing a Date header. The usual suspects are iTunes weekly mailings and NYTimes email-to-a-friend articles. I use qmail, which doesn't "fix" these malformed emails by adding a Date header (like Sendmail does), so when they get to my mailbox, they're jus

Re: [Dovecot] SORT(DATE) and missing Date headers

2007-09-24 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Monday, September 24 at 04:19 PM, quoth Rich at Whidbey Telecom: We recently encountered this with a new VOIP voicemail system. However, using Thunderbird at least, the time the message file was written is used (probably using "INTERNALDATE"). This might only apply if you're using Maildir'

Re: [Dovecot] SORT(DATE) and missing Date headers

2007-09-25 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Tuesday, September 25 at 12:39 PM, quoth Timo Sirainen: How hard would this be to hack into the current Dovecot source? Replace mail_get_date() calls in src/imap/imap-sort.c with something like: t = mail_get_date(..); if (t == (time_t)-1) t = mail_get_received_date(..); That's not *quite*

Re: [Dovecot] SORT(DATE) and missing Date headers

2007-10-02 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Tuesday, September 25 at 06:26 PM, quoth Timo Sirainen: That's not *quite* what I meant. ARRIVAL is "when did this mail get here", while DATE is supposed to be "when was this mail sent". My thought here is that "when was this mail sent" can be approximated in the absence of a Date header by

Re: [Dovecot] SORT(DATE) and missing Date headers

2007-10-02 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Tuesday, October 2 at 09:49 AM, quoth Kyle Wheeler: Aha! That's perfect! (and so simple!) If anyone in the future is interested in the code for this, here's what I did that works for me. This goes in all three places that mail_get_date() is used in the code: I put up a patc

Re: [Dovecot] Spliting Folders for Efficiency

2007-10-12 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Friday, October 12 at 11:06 AM, quoth Daniel Watts: What actually ARE the advantages of a 'one file per folder' format?? It depends on the environment. It's exceedingly efficient at storage: on a filesystem with 4k blocks, three 1k messages take up 1 block (4k), where in a one-file-per-mes

Re: [Dovecot] Spliting Folders for Efficiency

2007-11-01 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Saturday, October 13 at 09:25 AM, quoth Daniel W: Thanks for the insights. Is it also true that to read a single message in a 800MB mbox, you need to load 800MB of data into memory which is then searched for that message? Not at all. If you don't know what message you're looking for, then

Re: [Dovecot] v1.0.6 released

2007-11-01 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Sunday, October 28 at 03:16 AM, quoth Timo Sirainen: * SORT: If Date: header is missing or broken, fallback to using INTERNALDATE (as the SORT draft nowadays specifies). Since this is a subject I looked at before, I'm rather curious. Where in the SORT draft does it say to

Re: [Dovecot] v1.0.6 released

2007-11-01 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Thursday, November 1 at 02:31 PM, quoth Kyle Wheeler: On Sunday, October 28 at 03:16 AM, quoth Timo Sirainen: * SORT: If Date: header is missing or broken, fallback to using INTERNALDATE (as the SORT draft nowadays specifies). Since this is a subject I looked at before

Re: [Dovecot] v1.0.6 released

2007-11-02 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Friday, November 2 at 04:50 PM, quoth Timo Sirainen: On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 14:31 -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Sunday, October 28 at 03:16 AM, quoth Timo Sirainen: >* SORT: If Date: header is missing or broken, fallback to using > INTERNALDATE (as the SORT draft nowadays spe

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot I/O scheduling (all versions)

2007-11-08 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Sunday, November 4 at 01:02 PM, quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What I see is that if there is a peak in disk usage at the time of a specific request that requests stalls. The saturation of disk I/O is momentary but when it’s done (maybe after one or two seconds) Dovecot still waits for its I/O op

Re: [Dovecot] SSL/TLS with Outlook client

2007-11-14 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Wednesday, November 14 at 11:51 AM, quoth Ed W: Is TLS always performed BEFORE auth with generally available POP/IMAP clients? Yes, because that's generally the entire point of using encryption. After all, what's more important: encrypting your username/password before transmitting it over

Re: [Dovecot] SSL/TLS with Outlook client

2007-11-14 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday, November 14 at 02:18 PM, quoth Steffen Kaiser: >On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Ed W wrote: > >> Is TLS always performed BEFORE auth with generally available POP/IMAP >> clients? > >The IMAP spec does not contain an identification of the client app

Re: [Dovecot] SSL/TLS with Outlook client

2007-11-14 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Wednesday, November 14 at 09:35 PM, quoth Nikolay Shopik: And HELO in SMTP is entirely unreliable, unverifiable, and on many servers completely skippable. RFC says you SHOULD use FQDN for HELO nothing more. But still you can add SPF record for your HELO so nobody can foged your server HELO

Re: [Dovecot] SSL/TLS with Outlook client

2007-11-14 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Wednesday, November 14 at 09:15 PM, quoth Timo Sirainen: On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 12:29 -0600, Kyle Wheeler wrote: On Wednesday, November 14 at 11:51 AM, quoth Ed W: > Is TLS always performed BEFORE auth with generally available POP/IMAP > clients? .. Technically, there's nothing

Re: [Dovecot] SSL/TLS with Outlook client

2007-11-14 Thread Kyle Wheeler
On Wednesday, November 14 at 10:51 PM, quoth Marcus Rueckert: rejecting on wrong informations in HELO/EHLO saves me lots of spam. That's a half-baked idea at best, given that you're violating a MUST NOT in the SMTP specification. Plus, how do you judge "wrong"? Hotmail and MSN both fail to us

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