[Dovecot] The deleted_to_trash Plugin (workaround Outlook 2007 behaviour)

2012-06-24 Thread J E Lyon
Hi, I see the plugin exists for v1 & v2, all very interesting... Surprised no one seems to have created an RPM and it looks like deleted_to_trash is one of the very few plugins to not be shipped as part of the default install with CentOS 5.5 or CentOS 6 (i.e. Dovecot v1 & v2 respectively.) Am

Re: [Dovecot] 2.1.7 TLS issues

2012-06-24 Thread J E Lyon
On 24 Jun 2012, at 21:20, Christian Rößner wrote: >>> I have an interesting problem: I am building dovecot packages for Ubuntu >>> since 10.04. Never had bigger trouble with it. Now since 2.1.6 or 2.1.7 (I >>> can not say more precisely), Thunderbird 10ESR and Outlook 2010 can no >>> longer use

Re: [Dovecot] Virtual users - what is better Maildir or mbox?

2012-06-25 Thread J E Lyon
On 25 Jun 2012, at 08:20, Kaya Saman wrote: > Now what I would like to know is, which is better for "virtual > hosting" Maildir or mbox? I always use Maildir in preference to mbox . . it's just such a lovely solution, imho :) (Mind you, I'm on a *nix server, so filesystem behaviour may be a cons

Re: [Dovecot] Virtual users - what is better Maildir or mbox?

2012-06-25 Thread J E Lyon
On 25 Jun 2012, at 08:52, Kaya Saman wrote: > I've previously **only** ever worked with Maildir but I was told that there > are some benefits to mbox which is why I decided to try to use it here! I used mbox before Dovecot, but once I found Maildir, I never looked back. I've not come up with an

Re: [Dovecot] Virtual users - what is better Maildir or mbox?

2012-06-25 Thread J E Lyon
On 25 Jun 2012, at 10:44, Charles Marcus wrote: > On 2012-06-25 3:58 AM, J E Lyon wrote: >> I've not come up with any significant advantages of mbox that count >> for much in my experiences and installations . . Would be interested >> to hear of suggested advantages th

[Dovecot] Maildir Seen Flags not heeded when dovecot-shared present

2012-06-26 Thread J E Lyon
Hi, After many hours of searching (!) and lots of testing procmail scripts, I found the explanation I was looking for -- something you explained at http://www.dovecot.org/list/dovecot/2008-July/032551.html That explains it. Thing is, though, every time I've seen shared mailboxes -- really shar

Re: [Dovecot] Maildir Seen Flags not heeded when dovecot-shared present

2012-06-27 Thread J E Lyon
On 26 Jun 2012, at 21:49, Timo Sirainen wrote: > So you don't want shared seen flags? You can simply not create dovecot-shared > file nowadays. It's not necessary. The only other purpose for it was as the > template for file permissions, but those are nowadays taken from the maildir > itself: h

[Dovecot] The deleted_to_trash Plugin (workaround Outlook 2007 behaviour)

2012-06-27 Thread J E Lyon
Hi, I see this plugin exists for v1 & v2, all very interesting... Surprised no one seems to have created an RPM and it looks like deleted_to_trash is one of the very few plugins to not be shipped as part of the default install with CentOS 5.5 or CentOS 6 (i.e. Dovecot v1 & v2 respectively.) Am

Re: [Dovecot] The deleted_to_trash Plugin (workaround Outlook 2007 behaviour)

2012-06-27 Thread J E Lyon
On 27 Jun 2012, at 19:27, Bradley Giesbrecht wrote: > On Jun 27, 2012, at 9:10 AM, J E Lyon wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I see this plugin exists for v1 & v2, all very interesting... Surprised no >> one seems to have created an RPM and it looks like deleted_to_trash

Re: [Dovecot] Maildir Seen Flags not heeded when dovecot-shared present

2012-06-28 Thread J E Lyon
hanks all, J. On 27 Jun 2012, at 11:01, J E Lyon wrote: > On 26 Jun 2012, at 21:49, Timo Sirainen wrote: > >> So you don't want shared seen flags? You can simply not create >> dovecot-shared file nowadays. It's not necessary. The only other purpose for >> it wa

Re: [Dovecot] Outlook 2010 very slow when using IMAP - are there any tweaks?

2012-07-03 Thread J E Lyon
On 3 Jul 2012, at 07:46, Timo Sirainen wrote: > On 3.7.2012, at 9.38, Kaya Saman wrote: > >> So if I look at a different authentication mechanism say LDAP would it >> improve performance? > > I doubt authentication has anything to do with why Outlook downloads mails > slowly. > > But you could

Re: [Dovecot] Outlook 2010 very slow when using IMAP - are there any tweaks?

2012-07-03 Thread J E Lyon
On 3 Jul 2012, at 08:12, Kaya Saman wrote: > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:59 AM, J E Lyon > wrote: >> On 3 Jul 2012, at 07:46, Timo Sirainen wrote: >> >>> On 3.7.2012, at 9.38, Kaya Saman wrote: >>> >>>> So if I look at a different authent

Re: [Dovecot] Outlook 2010 very slow when using IMAP - are there any tweaks?

2012-07-03 Thread J E Lyon
On 3 Jul 2012, at 11:51, Kaya Saman wrote: > Yeah, it seems to be M$ implementation of IMAP. I don't think that > there's anything anyone can do Outlook seems to wait after each > transmission (found using Wireshark). Is the client syncing more than it has to? I mean, putting aside the delay

Re: [Dovecot] Outlook 2010 very slow when using IMAP - are there any tweaks?

2012-07-03 Thread J E Lyon
On 3 Jul 2012, at 12:32, Kaya Saman wrote: > Ok now probably related to this is that some folders are not able to copy?? > > While dragging one folder from Outlook PST to the Dovecot IMAP server > in Outlook 2010, the transfer keeps bombing out? > > In the logs all I see are: > > : Error: stat(

Re: [Dovecot] Outlook 2010 very slow when using IMAP - are there any tweaks?

2012-07-03 Thread J E Lyon
On 3 Jul 2012, at 13:11, Kaya Saman wrote: > It is Maildir I am using, checked permissions - they're all ok. Yeah > would be cur When connecting to this, do I need to put something > like Inbox or INBOX as the mail root folder? > > I remember historically one needed to do that, however, with

Re: [Dovecot] Outlook 2010 very slow when using IMAP - are there any tweaks?

2012-07-03 Thread J E Lyon
On 3 Jul 2012, at 13:20, Kaya Saman wrote: > [...] >> >> >> That's not something as simple as permissions on the server end, is it? > > > I have my Maildir and parent folder permissions setup as: > > rwx-- mail_user:mail_user I don't know what is strictly necessary, but I actually use rwxr

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-04 Thread J E Lyon
On 4 Jul 2012, at 21:01, Adrian Minta wrote: > What is the best strategy to add another storage to an existing virtual mail > system ? > Move some domains to the new storage and create symlinks ? > Switch to dovecot hashing ? But in this case what is the easy-east way to > migrate ? > > Thanks

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-04 Thread J E Lyon
On 4 Jul 2012, at 22:09, Adrian Minta wrote: > On 07/04/12 23:22, J E Lyon wrote: >> On 4 Jul 2012, at 21:01, Adrian Minta wrote: >> >>> What is the best strategy to add another storage to an existing virtual >>> mail system ? >>> Move some doma

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-05 Thread J E Lyon
On 5 Jul 2012, at 08:44, Adrian M wrote: > Hi Stan, > I know how to add drives to the storage and how to grow the existing > filesystem, but such big filesystems are somehow new to mainstream > linux. Yes, I know some university out there already have pentabytes > filesystems, but right now stable

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-05 Thread J E Lyon
On 5 Jul 2012, at 10:45, Kaya Saman wrote: > But then one must think, do I really want to switch OS? I heard a rumour that switching OS is sometimes harder than adding a mountpoint :) J.

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-05 Thread J E Lyon
On 5 Jul 2012, at 10:55, Kaya Saman wrote: > That's why I'm not even thinking of migrating the mission critical > stuff running on CentOS 5 to even CentOS 6 yet. I'm in an identical position there -- and in fact, I think it's time to get some virtualised hosting of CentOS 6 servers, once I decid

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-07 Thread J E Lyon
On 7 Jul 2012, at 07:37, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > 99% of block latency is rotational. So true... I spend my entire life trying to convince customers to add heaps and heaps of RAM to *nix servers to make them faster and not be swayed by talk of faster CPUs . . Sheeesh! . . Come to think of it, I'

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 2.1.8 crashes when doing POP3 UIDL on empty INBOX

2012-07-08 Thread J E Lyon
On 8 Jul 2012, at 08:00, Joseph Tam wrote: > Timo Sirainen writes: > >>> #0 i_panic (format=0xff2302f8 "Trying to allocate %u bytes") at >>> failures.c:259 >> >> Fixed: http://hg.dovecot.org/dovecot-2.1/rev/ea18b2ddb67b >> >> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 05:52:03 +0300 > > 2 hours after I repo

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-08 Thread J E Lyon
On 8 Jul 2012, at 08:36, Steve Litt wrote: >> Can one even argue on one side or the other without knowing the speed >> of the network, and how much contention is on that network? >> >> My experience is that with a 100Mbs network, local is faster, although >> I've never had a SAN, so to speak, on

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread J E Lyon
On 9 Jul 2012, at 10:41, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > Many people just want to be proud, or want to make things expensive so their > clients are proud. but not always it's like that. You go on a bit about "pride in complexity" . . What you fail to understand is that many highly intelligent, experie

Re: [Dovecot] Remove leading and trailing spaces from folder names?

2012-07-20 Thread J E Lyon
On 20 Jul 2012, at 09:05, Tom Hendrikx wrote: > On 7/20/12 9:56 AM, Frank Bonnet wrote: >> On 07/20/2012 09:48 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: do you really think that he migrates to exchange because he have fun with it? >>> so? is it my problem that he works in company managed by an idiot? >

Re: [Dovecot] deleted-to-trash plugin problems

2012-07-24 Thread J E Lyon
On 24 Jul 2012, at 15:51, Steve Platt wrote: > We have a user who wants to use Outlook with our Dovecot IMAP server but > doesn't like the way Outlook handles deletion with IMAP. > > Ironically she would like Outlook to move the message to her Trash folder, > just like Outlook does with "local"