On 1/01/22 9:57 pm, Benny Pedersen wrote:
its basicly just statistik you say above
You seem to think you can just ARC sign the message and everything will
be rosy. This is not the case, ARC needs to be implemented on the
receiver side or it will be completely ignored. It will takes yeras fo
On 2022-01-01 09:14, Peter wrote:
On 1/01/22 12:56 am, Benny Pedersen wrote:
if maillist all did the arc seal/ arc sign, before thay break dkim,
then its still possible to verify orginal sender trust, bingo
its just sad nearly all make it worse by dkim sign all forwarded
mails, thay miss the
On 1/01/22 12:56 am, Benny Pedersen wrote:
if maillist all did the arc seal/ arc sign, before thay break dkim, then
its still possible to verify orginal sender trust, bingo
its just sad nearly all make it worse by dkim sign all forwarded mails,
thay miss the dkim private key mostly to do this,
On 2021-12-31 08:38, Felix Zielcke wrote:
Spam senders can setup valid SPF + DKIM too.
most fail to understand spf helo pass :)
The only difference is a malicous relay could make ARC headers for e.g.
microsoft.com even though DKIM didn't pass. So yeah you need more trust
with ARC.
Am Donnerstag, dem 30.12.2021 um 17:07 -0500 schrieb dove...@ptld.com:
> > On 12-30-2021 10:35 am, Felix Zielcke wrote:
> >
> > But dovecot mailing list uses ARC Headers.
> > And they seem to verify for me (using rspamd)
>
>
> I have not fully studied ARC, but from briefly looking isn't ARC just
On 31/12/21 4:32 am, dove...@ptld.com wrote:
DMARC breaks on dovecot mailing list.
That is not always the case. Indeed your message explicitly passes DMARC.
DMARC does not break on postfix mailing list.
This is not true either. I have had several messages fail DMARC from
the postfix list
> On 12-30-2021 10:35 am, Felix Zielcke wrote:
>
> But dovecot mailing list uses ARC Headers.
> And they seem to verify for me (using rspamd)
I have not fully studied ARC, but from briefly looking isn't ARC just a way for
the sending server to attest to the email it is relaying as being legit?
On 2021-12-30 16:35, Felix Zielcke wrote:
But dovecot mailing list uses ARC Headers.
And they seem to verify for me (using rspamd)
arc does not need spf or dkim on the forwarding host
problem i report is that spf helo pass is missing, and this is not an
issue for arc at all
On 2021-12-30 16:32, dove...@ptld.com wrote:
DMARC breaks on dovecot mailing list.
dmarc is fine if spf pass, but that is only half correct depending on
dmarc policy
DMARC does not break on postfix mailing list.
there is no spf on postfix maillist, so lets remove it on dovecot ?,
fool :
Am Donnerstag, dem 30.12.2021 um 10:32 -0500 schrieb dove...@ptld.com:
> > On 12-30-2021 10:11 am, Benny Pedersen wrote:
> > On 2021-12-30 12:58, Aki Tuomi wrote:
> > > > On 30/12/2021 06:38 Benny Pedersen wrote:
> > > > would be nice to see added :=)
> > > > talvi.dovecot.org txt "spfv1 a -all"
>
> On 12-30-2021 10:11 am, Benny Pedersen wrote:
> On 2021-12-30 12:58, Aki Tuomi wrote:
>>> On 30/12/2021 06:38 Benny Pedersen wrote:
>>> would be nice to see added :=)
>>> talvi.dovecot.org txt "spfv1 a -all"
>> Why?
>
> dkim fails here
> spf is more stable
> results from current msg
DMARC bre
On 2021-12-30 12:58, Aki Tuomi wrote:
On 30/12/2021 06:38 Benny Pedersen wrote:
would be nice to see added :=)
talvi.dovecot.org txt "spfv1 a -all"
Why?
dkim fails here
spf is more stable
results from current msg
> On 30/12/2021 06:38 Benny Pedersen wrote:
>
>
> would be nice to see added :=)
>
> talvi.dovecot.org txt "spfv1 a -all"
Why?
Aki
would be nice to see added :=)
talvi.dovecot.org txt "spfv1 a -all"
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