Re: FREAK/Logjam, and SSL protocols to use

2015-05-27 Thread Jacques Distler
> For a given computational effort, you get the most bang-for-the-buck by > choosing large parameters (and checking very carefully that they are > "safe") rather than smaller parameters (and/or checking them less > carefully) which you then regenerate. This discussion (on the OpenSSH mailing list)

Re: FREAK/Logjam, and SSL protocols to use

2015-05-27 Thread Jacques Distler
>But when you write NOT to regenerate, are you saying that using larger primes >makes regenerating unnecessary, or are you telling us that it's somehow >harmful? For a given computational effort, you get the most bang-for-the-buck by choosing large parameters (and checking very carefully that t

Re: FREAK/Logjam, and SSL protocols to use

2015-05-27 Thread Gedalya
On 05/27/2015 12:29 PM, Jacques Distler wrote: It is not at this point emphasized anywhere, including on weakdh.org, that it is actually of high importance to regenerate your DH parameters frequently. That's not really correct. If you're using a prime of length at least 2048 bits, then the c

Re: FREAK/Logjam, and SSL protocols to use

2015-05-27 Thread Jacques Distler
>It is not at this point emphasized anywhere, including on weakdh.org, that it >is actually of high importance to regenerate your DH parameters frequently. That's not really correct. If you're using a prime of length at least 2048 bits, then the corresponding discrete-log problem is well-beyond

Re: FREAK/Logjam, and SSL protocols to use

2015-05-27 Thread Gedalya
On 05/27/2015 12:15 PM, Ron Leach wrote: I couldn't find an entry in 10-ssl.config that covered regeneration (though our version is 2.2.15 and the current release, 2.2.18, may differ). Yea it's just not there. You can 'discover' these 'hidden' options using doveconf -a, scattered docs, and

Re: FREAK/Logjam, and SSL protocols to use

2015-05-27 Thread Ron Leach
On 27/05/2015 05:22, Gedalya wrote: It looks like there is an error on this page regarding regeneration. In current dovecots ssl_parameters_regenerate defaults to zero, and this means regeneration is disabled. The old default was 168 hours (1 week). The language on http://wiki2.dovecot.org/SSL/D

Re: FREAK/Logjam, and SSL protocols to use

2015-05-27 Thread Gedalya
On 05/27/2015 11:56 AM, Rick Romero wrote: Quoting Gedalya : On 05/27/2015 09:55 AM, Rick Romero wrote: Quoting Gedalya : On 05/26/2015 10:37 AM, Ron Leach wrote: https://weakdh.org/sysadmin.html includes altering DH parameters length to 2048, and re-specifying the allowable cipher suit

Re: FREAK/Logjam, and SSL protocols to use

2015-05-27 Thread Rick Romero
Quoting Gedalya : On 05/27/2015 09:55 AM, Rick Romero wrote: Quoting Gedalya : On 05/26/2015 10:37 AM, Ron Leach wrote: https://weakdh.org/sysadmin.html includes altering DH parameters length to 2048, and re-specifying the allowable cipher suites - they give their suggestion. It looks li

Re: FREAK/Logjam, and SSL protocols to use

2015-05-27 Thread Gedalya
On 05/27/2015 09:55 AM, Rick Romero wrote: Quoting Gedalya : On 05/26/2015 10:37 AM, Ron Leach wrote: https://weakdh.org/sysadmin.html includes altering DH parameters length to 2048, and re-specifying the allowable cipher suites - they give their suggestion. It looks like there is an error

Re: FREAK/Logjam, and SSL protocols to use

2015-05-27 Thread Rick Romero
Quoting Gedalya : On 05/26/2015 10:37 AM, Ron Leach wrote: https://weakdh.org/sysadmin.html includes altering DH parameters length to 2048, and re-specifying the allowable cipher suites - they give their suggestion. It looks like there is an error on this page regarding regeneration. In cur

Re: FREAK/Logjam, and SSL protocols to use

2015-05-26 Thread Gedalya
On 05/26/2015 10:37 AM, Ron Leach wrote: https://weakdh.org/sysadmin.html includes altering DH parameters length to 2048, and re-specifying the allowable cipher suites - they give their suggestion. It looks like there is an error on this page regarding regeneration. In current dovecots ssl

Re: FREAK/Logjam, and SSL protocols to use

2015-05-26 Thread Emmanuel Dreyfus
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 03:37:39PM +0100, Ron Leach wrote: > What SSL protocols do folk on the list recommend should be allowed in > Dovecot these days? (Actually, I mean which protocols really 'must' be > disallowed?) I use this: ssl_protocols = !SSLv2 !SSLv3 ssl_cipher_list = ECDH@STRENGTH:DH@S

Re: FREAK/Logjam, and SSL protocols to use

2015-05-26 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 26.05.2015 um 16:37 schrieb Ron Leach: > # SSL protocols to use > #ssl_protocols = !SSLv2 you should use ssl_protocols = !SSLv2 you may use ssl_protocols = !SSLv2 !SSLv3 if you havent any clients that can only work on SSLv3 i.e outdated Netscape etc Best Regards MfG Robert Schetterer --

Re: FREAK/Logjam, and SSL protocols to use

2015-05-26 Thread Ron Leach
On 26/05/2015 15:37, Ron Leach wrote: I was reading up on a TLS Diffie Hellman protocol weakness described here https://weakdh.org/sysadmin.html Sorry, wrong link. The weakness is described at the front page here https://weakdh.org/ The page with the Dovecot advice was correct: https:/