On 2010-03-05 8:43 AM, Timo Sirainen wrote:
> With v2.0 you can do basically everything as external plugin. Even
> managesieve no longer requires patching Dovecot.
>
> LDA "talks" to SMTP server by calling sendmail binary. That's kind of
> ugly. v2.0 actually has SMTP client support, so maybe I sh
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 06:08 -0500, Charles Marcus wrote:
> Not to belabor the point, but the dovecot LDA is already talking to the
> SMTP server in one direction... this is why I proposed something as
> simple as possible, a 'LSA proxy'... just enough to make sure the
> message is accepted for del
On 2010-03-05 4:59 AM, Ed W wrote:
> Perhaps a simple case of adding a flag when saving into a folder
> would mark the message as being required to be sent onwards?
Way to error-prone for my taste. What about the luser that accidentally
drops 5000 messages in there ... no thanks... ;)
> The oth
On 05/03/2010 10:10, Timo Sirainen wrote:
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 09:59 +, Ed W wrote:
MUA would have to support both of those URLAUTH and BURL extensions, so
that it can register a temporary URL on the IMAP server, then connect to
SMTP server and give that URL to BURL command (instead of
On 2010-03-05 5:10 AM, Timo Sirainen wrote:
> Well, I'm not very happy about the idea of IMAP server sending messages
> to SMTP server either.. :)
Not to belabor the point, but the dovecot LDA is already talking to the
SMTP server in one direction... this is why I proposed something as
simple as p
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 09:59 +, Ed W wrote:
> > MUA would have to support both of those URLAUTH and BURL extensions, so
> > that it can register a temporary URL on the IMAP server, then connect to
> > SMTP server and give that URL to BURL command (instead of sending the
> > mail with DATA comman
On 04/03/2010 15:47, Timo Sirainen wrote:
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 10:05 -0500, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 2010-03-04 9:32 AM, Timo Sirainen wrote:
LEMONADE group solved this with IMAP URLAUTH (RFC 4467) and SMTP BURL
(RFC 4468) extensions. The idea is basically (copy&pasting from RFCs):
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 11:44 -0500, Charles Marcus wrote:
> Last ditch effort/comment - maybe a 'dovecot LSA proxy' would be useful
> for more than just this? But you never answered as to whether or not
> such a thing is even remotely feasible, much less doable in the real
> world...
Sure everythin
On 2010-03-04 11:44 AM, Charles Marcus wrote:
> No worries... apparently this is completely doable using postfix,
> dovecot, dovecot's LDA, and sieve... not quite as simple as just
> defining a new 'dovecot LSA proxy', but still doable.
The downside to this is, anyone doing this will have to maint
On 2010-03-04 10:47 AM, Timo Sirainen wrote:
> MUA would have to support both of those URLAUTH and BURL extensions,
> so that it can register a temporary URL on the IMAP server, then
> connect to SMTP server and give that URL to BURL command (instead of
> sending the mail with DATA command).
>
> S
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 10:05 -0500, Charles Marcus wrote:
> On 2010-03-04 9:32 AM, Timo Sirainen wrote:
> > LEMONADE group solved this with IMAP URLAUTH (RFC 4467) and SMTP BURL
> > (RFC 4468) extensions. The idea is basically (copy&pasting from RFCs):
> >
> >C: RCPT TO:
> >S: 250 2.1.5 r..
On 2010-03-04 10:16 AM, Steffen Kaiser wrote:
>> Anyway, thanks for the responses... at least your first suggestion
>> is something I can for myself, but it isn't something I'd like to
>> support in an enterprise - at least not unless/until Thunderbird
>> gets full support for Group Polices (and th
On 2010-03-04 10:24 AM, Steffen Kaiser wrote:
> If I understand sender_bcc_maps correctly, you can configure my first
> suggestion straight forward.
>
> sender_bcc_maps:
>
> m...@example.comme+s...@example.com
>
> Then pass the detail to deliver's "-m" option, which is the default
> mailbox
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Charles Marcus wrote:
Right - which is why I started this thread as exploring the possibility
of some kind of 'submission proxy' service that would work with
postfix's submission service.
I do as well.
If I understand sender_b
On 2010-03-04 10:09 AM, Steffen Kaiser wrote:
> Configure postfix to add the BCC to all messages in the MSA or all
> authentificated or however you can identify your users apart others.
Right - this is what is being discussed now...
>>> 2) you know that, if to send the message failed, the message
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Charles Marcus wrote:
Anyway, thanks for the responses... at least your first suggestion is
something I can for myself, but it isn't something I'd like to support
in an enterprise - at least not unless/until Thunderbird gets full
On 2010-03-04 10:11 AM, Steffen Kaiser wrote:
>> something purely server side that just works regardless of the MUA. Of
>
> That means: SMTP.
Right - which is why I started this thread as exploring the possibility
of some kind of 'submission proxy' service that would work with
postfix's submissio
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Charles Marcus wrote:
'sending messages in background', not for letting the *server* pick them
You could put that mailbox on the IMAP server, probably.
There the server can pick them up.
something purely server side that just
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Charles Marcus wrote:
Interesting, and yes, apparently this would suffice as a workaround for
individual users, but imo the less configuring that needs to be done *in
the client* the better - most importantly, there is less chanc
On 2010-03-04 9:32 AM, Timo Sirainen wrote:
> LEMONADE group solved this with IMAP URLAUTH (RFC 4467) and SMTP BURL
> (RFC 4468) extensions. The idea is basically (copy&pasting from RFCs):
>
>C: RCPT TO:
>S: 250 2.1.5 r...@gryffindor.example.com OK.
>C: BURL imap://ha...@gryffindor.exa
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 08:32 -0500, Charles Marcus wrote:
> There was another thread (it has come up at least a few times in the
> past few years I've been lurking) on the postfix list about having some
> kind of automatic 'Save to Sent' option to avoid the users mail client
> from having to upload
On 2010-03-04 8:56 AM, Steffen Kaiser wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Charles Marcus wrote:
>
> Some MUAs have a server-side outbox.
Yes, but most clients don't directly support them.
I'm talking about something that can be used in the enterprise, without
requiring user intervention, aside from a *
On 2010-03-04 8:44 AM, Steffen Kaiser wrote:
>> Given: Postfix can be configured to use the Dovecot LDA for delivering
>> mail incoming.
> And that's all what's needed.
>
> Configure your postfix to honor subaddresses, IMHO, it's seperated by
> "+" in postfix, and pass it as argument of "-m" opti
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Charles Marcus wrote:
Some MUAs have a server-side outbox.
Store anything therein, and the server picks up the messages. To/CC/BCC
is taken from the message headers.
You can implement this:
a) via a Dovecot plugin, that trigg
On 2010-03-04 8:32 AM, Charles Marcus wrote:
> My question is simply, why wouldn't it be possible to create a Dovecot
> LSA ('submission agent'), that could be defined in postfix's master.cf
> file,
Oh - and by 'LSA', I didn't mean to suggest you should architect a
complete 'smtp listener'. I'm th
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On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Charles Marcus wrote:
Given: Postfix can be configured to use the Dovecot LDA for delivering
mail incoming.
And that's all what's needed.
Configure your postfix to honor subaddresses, IMHO, it's seperated by "+"
in postfix, a
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