Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-16 Thread David Lang
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, Wesley Craig wrote: On 13 Aug 2008, at 10:31, kbajwa wrote: I think you are missing a point which is most important, i.e., what type of support Cyrus vs Dovecot offers. In my experience: Cyrus = 0 Dovecot= 100 As someone who answers many help requests for cyru

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-14 Thread Mathieu Kretchner
> You need to subscribe to the folders on the new server. I find it just a few time after my mail but anyway thank you for your answer ! begin:vcard fn:Mathieu Kretchner n:Kretchner;Mathieu org:INRIA;Syslog adr;dom:;;2007 route des lucioles - BP93;Sophia Antipolis;;06902 CEDEX email;internet:[EMA

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-14 Thread martijn
On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:42:49 +0200, Mathieu Kretchner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ed W a écrit : >> Mathieu Kretchner wrote: >>> kbajwa a écrit : Hello: I think you are missing a point which is most important, i.e., what type of support Cyrus vs Dovecot offers. In my ex

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-14 Thread Mathieu Kretchner
>>> In any case I only have experience of dovecot and it's used in some >>> larger installs such as the old webmail.us, now 1&1 (I believe). I >>> think your installation is probably large enough that you might want to >>> do a trial migration of a couple of accounts and see if migration is a

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-14 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
* Mathieu Kretchner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Ed W a écrit : > > Mathieu Kretchner wrote: > >> kbajwa a écrit : > >>> Hello: > >>> > >>> I think you are missing a point which is most important, i.e., what > >>> type of > >>> support Cyrus vs Dovecot offers. In my experience: > >>> > >>> Cyrus =

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-14 Thread Mathieu Kretchner
Ed W a écrit : > Mathieu Kretchner wrote: >> kbajwa a écrit : >>> Hello: >>> >>> I think you are missing a point which is most important, i.e., what >>> type of >>> support Cyrus vs Dovecot offers. In my experience: >>> >>> Cyrus = 0 >>> Dovecot= 100 >>> >>> >>> My personal experience.

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-14 Thread Mathieu Kretchner
Pascal Gienger a écrit : Mathieu Kretchner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: kbajwa a écrit : Cyrus = 0 Dovecot= 100 I guess you've right but I can't post this answer at Cyrus mailing list. I'm just trying to have my own opinion of imap server and I already have sarcastic answer on th

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-13 Thread Bron Gondwana
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 01:07:34PM -0400, Wesley Craig wrote: > On 13 Aug 2008, at 10:31, kbajwa wrote: > > I think you are missing a point which is most important, i.e., what > > type of > > support Cyrus vs Dovecot offers. In my experience: > > > > Cyrus = 0 > > Dovecot= 100 > > As

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-13 Thread Wesley Craig
On 13 Aug 2008, at 10:31, kbajwa wrote: I think you are missing a point which is most important, i.e., what type of support Cyrus vs Dovecot offers. In my experience: Cyrus = 0 Dovecot= 100 As someone who answers many help requests for cyrus (and I'm very far from the only one),

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-13 Thread Pascal Gienger
Mathieu Kretchner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: kbajwa a écrit : Cyrus = 0 Dovecot= 100 I guess you've right but I can't post this answer at Cyrus mailing list. I'm just trying to have my own opinion of imap server and I already have sarcastic answer on the cyrus mailing list ! S

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-13 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Aug 13, 2008, at 12:44 PM, Ed W wrote: On the cyrus list they mentioned email retention policies. Now some people are going to say that this is really a job for the MTA (postfix/sendmail/etc). However, you have some plugins which might get you partly towards solving that need, but noth

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-13 Thread Ed W
Mathieu Kretchner wrote: kbajwa a écrit : Hello: I think you are missing a point which is most important, i.e., what type of support Cyrus vs Dovecot offers. In my experience: Cyrus = 0 Dovecot= 100 My personal experience. Kirt I guess you've right but I can't post this answer

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-13 Thread Mathieu Kretchner
kbajwa a écrit : Hello: I think you are missing a point which is most important, i.e., what type of support Cyrus vs Dovecot offers. In my experience: Cyrus = 0 Dovecot= 100 My personal experience. Kirt I guess you've right but I can't post this answer at Cyrus mailing list. I'

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-13 Thread Ed W
kbajwa wrote: Hello: I think you are missing a point which is most important, i.e., what type of support Cyrus vs Dovecot offers. In my experience: Cyrus = 0 Dovecot= 100 My personal experience. Don't forget that although for some reason he doesn't widely advertise it - Timo

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-13 Thread kbajwa
Hello: I think you are missing a point which is most important, i.e., what type of support Cyrus vs Dovecot offers. In my experience: Cyrus = 0 Dovecot= 100 My personal experience. Kirt

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-12 Thread Proskurin Kirill
Mathieu Kretchner wrote: PS : awesome mailing list... so reactive ! Welcome to dovecot. :-) What i may say - you should try a dovecot and 99% of your question will expire. P.S. Please tune your mail client to make reply-to field to dovecot@dovecot.org then you write a message here. P.P.

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-12 Thread Mathieu Kretchner
Hi, we are providing Mail-Service (POP3, IMAP; either TLS or SSL) to 22000 students here at my university. There are 2 machines running as active-passive cluster with DRBD to sync the maildata. Each box is a 4 core Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU 5160 @ 3.00GHz with 8 gigs RAM. After a tuneup for DRB

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-12 Thread Philipp Kolmann
Mathieu Kretchner wrote: Charles Marcus a écrit : On 8/11/2008, Mathieu Kretchner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: So here is my next environment : how many mailbox ? 5000 with adequate hardware/RAM, no problem how many users ? 6000 again - with adequate hardware/RAM, no problem Ok it seems

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-12 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Aug 12, 2008, at 3:41 AM, Mathieu Kretchner wrote: Database user ? LDAP Here is an other problem : we don't have uid/gid stored in our LDAP database. Do we have to configure dovecot with a dovecot specific user/group ? Yes, one or more (for one you have mail_uid/gid settings with v1.1

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-12 Thread Mathieu Kretchner
Timo Sirainen a écrit : On Aug 11, 2008, at 10:57 AM, Mathieu Kretchner wrote: High Performance without hacking conf files ! http://wiki.dovecot.org/PerformanceTuning lists some of the things you can tune, but the defaults should be pretty good (although some default settings prefer reliabi

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-12 Thread Mathieu Kretchner
Charles Marcus a écrit : On 8/11/2008, Mathieu Kretchner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: So here is my next environment : how many mailbox ? 5000 with adequate hardware/RAM, no problem how many users ? 6000 again - with adequate hardware/RAM, no problem Ok it seems to be great, but wath do

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-11 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Aug 11, 2008, at 10:57 AM, Mathieu Kretchner wrote: High Performance without hacking conf files ! http://wiki.dovecot.org/PerformanceTuning lists some of the things you can tune, but the defaults should be pretty good (although some default settings prefer reliability/security over perf

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-11 Thread Charles Marcus
On 8/11/2008, Mathieu Kretchner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: So here is my next environment : how many mailbox ? 5000 with adequate hardware/RAM, no problem how many users ? 6000 again - with adequate hardware/RAM, no problem Concurrent access/usage will dictate if you need more than one se

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-11 Thread Mathieu Kretchner
Charles Marcus a écrit : On 8/11/2008, Mathieu Kretchner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: But, at present, we need to have a secure / reliable / fast with all the properties that must fit a real e-mail server in order to support our new e-mail IMAP architecture, so the question is (because we have onl

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-11 Thread Charles Marcus
On 8/11/2008, Mathieu Kretchner ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: But, at present, we need to have a secure / reliable / fast with all the properties that must fit a real e-mail server in order to support our new e-mail IMAP architecture, so the question is (because we have only 2 options) Why should I

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-11 Thread Mathieu Kretchner
Marcin Gryszkalis a écrit : On Monday of August 11 2008, Proskurin Kirill wrote: And Timo help a lot for many people in this list. Confirmed. Timo (and other users) doesn't leave any (non trivial) question unanswered, wiki is full of useful info, important bugs are fixed quick (follow mercur

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-11 Thread Marcin Gryszkalis
On Monday of August 11 2008, Proskurin Kirill wrote: > And Timo help a lot for many people in this list. Confirmed. Timo (and other users) doesn't leave any (non trivial) question unanswered, wiki is full of useful info, important bugs are fixed quick (follow mercurial repo) and new versions are

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-11 Thread Proskurin Kirill
Mathieu Kretchner wrote: First of all : forgive me for my poor English Hello all, I've to compare cyrus with dovecot for my work. Because these are the only solutions that could fit our needs. Unfortunately I really don't know a lot about dovecot and I would like to have some of its assets.

Re: [Dovecot] Cyrus vs Dovecot

2008-08-11 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Mathieu Kretchner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > First of all : forgive me for my poor English > > Hello all, > > I've to compare cyrus with dovecot for my work. Because these are the > only solutions that could fit our needs. > Unfortunately I really don't know a lot about dovecot and I would like to