On 11/21/2009 06:15 PM, Thomas wrote:
Close TB. Delete your .msf to recreate indexes. Start TB again and let
it re-index (it will take a while). Then everything should be fine. If
not do a bug report.
I submitted a bug report before I saw your post (Tested in TB3.0rc1,
BuildID=20091121181041)
On 11/22/2009, Jerry (ges...@yahoo.com) wrote:
> I have read at least two white papers that described Microsoft's support
> for ODF in Office 2010.
Wonder who authored them...
> Both stated that Microsoft's support was more compliant that that in
> Open Office.
I googled:
microsoft odf support
>
> On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, vus...@test123.ru wrote:
>
>> Outlook is best email client. Even 2003. The only missing thing is
>> inability to do imap-search request directly to imap server.
>
> I won't say Outlook is the worst email client I've ever seen, but we
> all know that 'best' and 'Outlook' c
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, Jerry wrote:
If you are using a version <2007 then upgrading should be seriously
considered. The "ODF" format in the 2010 version is supposedly more
compliant than that used in OpenOffice.
Rotflmao! You're not serious?? I think you are confusing the Microsoft
OpenXML form
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:25:09 -0500
Charles Marcus replied:
> > If you are using a version <2007 then upgrading should be seriously
> > considered. The "ODF" format in the 2010 version is supposedly more
> > compliant than that used in OpenOffice.
>
> Rotflmao! You're not serious?? I think you
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 11/22/2009, Maarten Bezemer (mcbdove...@robuust.nl) wrote:
But at least now that I moved the Outlook.pst and
outlooku...@servername-02.pst to a samba share, it is useable.
Still puzzled as to why they decided to store those in de
LocalSettings
On November 21, 2009 9:39:10 PM -0800 Seth Mattinen
wrote:
The fact that it can't "delete" by moving a copy to a "deleted
items" folder still bugs me enough that I won't use it.
Not a useful feature anyway, IMHO. Of course this is a user preference
but I like my deleted emails to stay right
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, vus...@test123.ru wrote:
Outlook is best email client. Even 2003. The only missing thing is
inability to do imap-search request directly to imap server.
I won't say Outlook is the worst email client I've ever seen, but we all
know that 'best' and 'Outlook' can only be in
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Charles Marcus said the following on 22/11/09 20:25:
> They store them there because Microsft recommends against storing .PST
> files on network shareas... always have. Things can break really badly.
If you store your PST on a file server and you mak
On 11/22/2009 7:46 AM, Jerry wrote:
>> But you have to take in account that Outlook is mainly a client of
>> Exchange that incidentally does POP3 and IMAP.
Correct - Outlook shines as an Exchange client - anything else and it is
anywhere from mediocre (POP) to sucks wind (IMAP).
> If you are usin
On 11/22/2009, Maarten Bezemer (mcbdove...@robuust.nl) wrote:
> But at least now that I moved the Outlook.pst and
> outlooku...@servername-02.pst to a samba share, it is useable.
> Still puzzled as to why they decided to store those in de
> LocalSettings instead of in the normal user profile or
On 11/22/2009, Thomas Berezansky (tsb...@mvlc.org) wrote:
> Wait, what? I have, right now, a HTML message open, from an IMAP
> server, in Outlook 2007. Where did you hear that it wouldn't?
I saw it with my own two eyes...
Its been a while, maybe they addressed this with an update.
Regardless, th
Wait, what? I have, right now, a HTML message open, from an IMAP
server, in Outlook 2007. Where did you hear that it wouldn't?
Thomas Berezansky
Merrimack Valley Library Consortium
Quoting Charles Marcus :
On 11/22/2009, Seth Mattinen (se...@rollernet.us) wrote:
They finally added the abil
On 11/22/2009, Seth Mattinen (se...@rollernet.us) wrote:
> They finally added the ability to set a "sent items" folder on the IMAP
> server rather than using stupid tricks to copy it over, so that's a
> plus. The fact that it can't "delete" by moving a copy to a "deleted
> items" folder still bugs
On 11/21/2009, Jonathan (jonat...@kc8onw.net) wrote:
> Do you know anything about the date issue I mentioned where TB shows
> emails with a date of the last time the folder was indexed instead of
> when the email was actually delivered?
I missed that... but if that is occurring, then it seems like
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vus...@test123.ru said the following on 22/11/09 18:19:
> Maildir just for FTS?
OSX changed its local mail storage to simil-maildir when has been added Exposé.
Ciao,
luigi
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Maildir just for FTS? Standard Windows Search component (available for free)
handles PST files excellently. Outlook is best email client. Even 2003. The
only missing thing is inability to do imap-search request directly to imap
server. So, if the message is not yet downloaded to local PST, Outlo
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Maarten Bezemer said the following on 22/11/09 17:19:
> [Of course, one could argue that they should make Outlook conform to
> standards instead, but since they never showed any interest in
> conforming to standards with any product, that would be nai
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, Jerry wrote:
Of course this only applies to Microsoft Office 2010, a BETA of
which is available at:
I am very happy to know that Microsft acknowledged at dawn of 2010
that the limitation of personal storage is pointless.
The original PST specifications were developed wh
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 14:33:46 +0100
Luigi Rosa replied:
> Jerry said the following on 22/11/09 13:46:
>
> > Of course this only applies to Microsoft Office 2010, a BETA of
> > which is available at:
>
> I am very happy to know that Microsft acknowledged at dawn of 2010
> that the limitation of
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Jerry said the following on 22/11/09 13:46:
> Of course this only applies to Microsoft Office 2010, a BETA of which
> is available at:
I am very happy to know that Microsft acknowledged at dawn of 2010 that the
limitation of personal storage is point
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:25:22 +0100
Luigi Rosa replied:
> Thomas Harold said the following on 22/11/09 03:51:
>
> > Out of morbid curiosity... how good is Outlook 2007 at IMAP?
>
> Better than 2003. In 2007 you can even store your sent mail in an
> IMAP box instead on a local folder.
>
> The
On 21-Nov-2009, at 19:51, Thomas Harold wrote:
> Out of morbid curiosity... how good is Outlook 2007 at IMAP? I've had
> experience with Outlook 2003 and the 2GB PST limit was a deal breaker for me.
> I'm curious whether Outlook is getting better or worse at IMAP.
It's better, but is still st
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Thomas Harold said the following on 22/11/09 03:51:
> Out of morbid curiosity... how good is Outlook 2007 at IMAP?
Better than 2003. In 2007 you can even store your sent mail in an IMAP box
instead on a local folder.
The new PST file formt has sti
Didn't notice that my reply to this didn't include the list (the
default reply option due to having my address directly was "to
sender", not "to list" due to a local setting). Only noticed after the
fact.
My response:
One of my IMAP folders has over 13000 messages and is handled fine,
bu
Thomas Harold wrote:
> On 11/20/2009 1:51 PM, Thomas Berezansky wrote:
>> Personally, I am using Horde (http://www.horde.org/) at work (this
>> address) and Outlook 2007 at home (largely due to getting freaky
>> attachments I need to open on a regular basis that only Microsoft mail
>> clients seem
On 11/21/2009 9:54 PM, Jonathan wrote:
Okay, that didn't take long. I have another spurious unread message
already. Should I do what it says here [1] and grab a nightly build and
create an entire new profile, or should I just report with what I have?
Any suggestions on what component to file the
On 11/21/2009 9:42 PM, Jonathan wrote:
Do you know anything about the date issue I mentioned where TB shows
emails with a date of the last time the folder was indexed instead of
when the email was actually delivered?
I've seen that bug, I generally either reindex / compact or completely
unsu
On 11/21/2009 9:15 PM, Thomas wrote:
Re,
As someone else noted it may be related to the amount of email I have.
I probably have nearly 100,000 messages spread across 30-40 folders
right now.
Close TB. Delete your .msf to recreate indexes. Start TB again and let
it re-index (it will take a whil
On 11/20/2009 2:16 PM, Charles Sprickman wrote:
We're talking about a mailbox with two or more users always in it and
around 40K messages across a few hundred folders. The scale of it all
seems to be part of the issue I think.
I run TB v2 on my laptop and TB v3 betas on my desktop. I've not
On 11/20/2009 1:51 PM, Thomas Berezansky wrote:
Personally, I am using Horde (http://www.horde.org/) at work (this
address) and Outlook 2007 at home (largely due to getting freaky
attachments I need to open on a regular basis that only Microsoft mail
clients seem to be able to open properly).
O
On 11/21/2009 9:15 PM, Thomas wrote:
Re,
As someone else noted it may be related to the amount of email I have.
I probably have nearly 100,000 messages spread across 30-40 folders
right now.
Close TB. Delete your .msf to recreate indexes. Start TB again and let
it re-index (it will take a whil
On 11/20/2009 12:59 PM, Jonathan wrote:
I'm getting tired of Thunderbird telling me I have unread messages in
folders that haven't gotten new messages for months so I'm looking for a
new mail client. I know the problem lies with Thunderbird because
everything is fine via RoundCube and if it tell
Re,
As someone else noted it may be related to the amount of email I have. I
probably have nearly 100,000 messages spread across 30-40 folders right
now.
Close TB. Delete your .msf to recreate indexes. Start TB again and let
it re-index (it will take a while). Then everything should be fine. I
On 11/21/2009 7:22 PM, Thomas wrote:
Hi Jonathan,
I'm getting tired of Thunderbird telling me I have unread messages in
folders that haven't gotten new messages for months so I'm looking for
a new mail client. [..]
Yes, it's a Thunderbird issue only. Usually that appears when you don't
compac
Hi Jonathan,
I'm getting tired of Thunderbird telling me I have unread messages in
folders that haven't gotten new messages for months so I'm looking for a
new mail client. [..]
Yes, it's a Thunderbird issue only. Usually that appears when you don't
compact your folders (you can ask TB to co
I lost the thread on the Sylpheed suggestion so I am replying here to let
everyone know that installing (dead easy) and using (even easier) Sylpheed on
my Windows XP netbook solved all of what I thought were Dovecot/IMAP problems.
Apologies to Timo for the unnecessary complaints about non-existe
On November 20, 2009 12:59:48 PM -0500 Jonathan wrote:
So what IMAP clients do people prefer these days? Preferably windows or
cross platform and it needs to have decent key bindings because (probably
like many of you) I get 100s of emails a day via lists and anything that
speeds my way through
On 11/20/09 , Nov 20, 11:13 AM, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 11/20/2009, Charles Sprickman (sp...@bway.net) wrote:
It is very good compared to TB2. However, the exact problem the OP
described still exists in 3.0b4. I've had the folks I setup with TB3
bugging the hell out of me about the "all o
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:38:43 -0500
Jonathan Jonathan replied:
[snip]
> I'm giving Claws Mail, a fork of Sylpheed apparently, a try. Haven't
> found a way to change key bindings yet and SHIFT-! is really awkward
> for marking a message unread.
Place cursor over 'Mark as Read"
Press the key
On 11/20/2009, Charles Sprickman (sp...@bway.net) wrote:
> We're talking about a mailbox with two or more users always in it and
> around 40K messages across a few hundred folders. The scale of it
> all seems to be part of the issue I think.
Ok, last question then I'll shut up... ;)
Have you tri
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, Charles Marcus wrote:
On 11/20/2009, Charles Sprickman (sp...@bway.net) wrote:
It is very good compared to TB2. However, the exact problem the OP
described still exists in 3.0b4. I've had the folks I setup with TB3
bugging the hell out of me about the "all of a sudden a b
On 11/20/2009, Charles Marcus (cmar...@media-brokers.com) wrote:
> What IMAP server?
heh... dumb question, huh...
dovecot -n output?
On 11/20/2009, Charles Sprickman (sp...@bway.net) wrote:
> It is very good compared to TB2. However, the exact problem the OP
> described still exists in 3.0b4. I've had the folks I setup with TB3
> bugging the hell out of me about the "all of a sudden a bunch of
> messages are marked new" issue.
On 11/20/2009, Thomas Berezansky (tsb...@mvlc.org) wrote:
> and Outlook 2007 at home (largely due to getting freaky attachments I
> need to open on a regular basis that only Microsoft mail clients seem
> to be able to open properly).
If you're talking about winmail.dat files, I found a very simple
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, John Gateley wrote:
Jonathan wrote:
So what IMAP clients do people prefer these days? Preferably windows or
cross platform and it needs to have decent key bindings...
Have you tried the new Thunderbird 3 beta? There was a thread
on this list recently about it. It has a l
Personally, I am using Horde (http://www.horde.org/) at work (this
address) and Outlook 2007 at home (largely due to getting freaky
attachments I need to open on a regular basis that only Microsoft mail
clients seem to be able to open properly).
Horde is a webmail client, and works well in
On 11/20/2009 12:59 PM, Jonathan wrote:
> I'm getting tired of Thunderbird telling me I have unread messages in
> folders that haven't gotten new messages for months so I'm looking for a
> new mail client. I know the problem lies with Thunderbird because
> everything is fine via RoundCube and if i
On 11/20/2009 1:27 PM, John Gateley wrote:
Jonathan wrote:
So what IMAP clients do people prefer these days? Preferably windows
or cross platform and it needs to have decent key bindings...
Have you tried the new Thunderbird 3 beta? There was a thread
on this list recently about it. It has a l
Jonathan writes:
Hi Jonathan!
> So what IMAP clients do people prefer these days?
I use Gnus [1], the version that is included in Emacs 23.
> Preferably windows or cross platform and it needs to have decent key
> bindings because (probably like many of you) I get 100s of emails a
> day via lis
Jonathan wrote:
So what IMAP clients do people prefer these days? Preferably windows or
cross platform and it needs to have decent key bindings...
Have you tried the new Thunderbird 3 beta? There was a thread
on this list recently about it. It has a lot of IMAP improvements.
Sylpheed has a ne
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, Jonathan wrote:
> So what IMAP clients do people prefer these days? Preferably windows or cross
> platform and it needs to have decent key bindings because (probably like many
> of you) I get 100s of emails a day via lists and anything that speeds my way
> through them is good
screen+mutt
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