Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-06 Thread gene heskett
On 9/5/23 00:52, Michael Tokarev wrote: 04.09.2023 23:23, gene heskett wrote: .. Ah contraire, Eduardo. My location since 1984 is in the middle northern area of WV, USA, And I am a minimum of 150 kilometers from the nearest ipv6 enabled network connection. I'm not even sure my cable modem, fur

Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread Michael Tokarev
04.09.2023 23:23, gene heskett wrote: .. Ah contraire, Eduardo. My location since 1984 is in the middle northern area of WV, USA, And I am a minimum of 150 kilometers from the nearest ipv6 enabled network connection. I'm not even sure my cable modem, furnished by Shentel about 7 to 10 years ago,

Fwd: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread Stephen Satchell
Damn. Forgot to hit "reply all" -- my bad Forwarded Message Subject: Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2023 15:35:51 -0700 From: Stephen Satchell Reply-To: l...@satchell.net To: Arjen de Korte On 9/4/23 2:40 PM, Arjen de Korte w

[offtopic] Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 9/4/23 15:40, Arjen de Korte wrote: Citeren Shawn Heisey : An interesting read: https://cr.yp.to/djbdns/ipv6mess.html FUD. This document was written something like two decades ago and pretty much all arguments against IPv6 are no longer relevant anymore. In most cases nowadays, the use

Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 9/4/23 1:41 PM, TWHG Technical via dovecot wrote: Sep 04 10:45:29 ourdomain dovecot[63336]: ^[[0;1;31m^[[0;1;39m^[[0;1;31mmaster: Error: service(imap-login): listen(::, 143) failed: A> Sep 04 10:45:29 ourdomain dovecot[63336]: Error: socket() failed: Address family not supported by protocol

Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread Arjen de Korte
Citeren Shawn Heisey : An interesting read: https://cr.yp.to/djbdns/ipv6mess.html FUD. This document was written something like two decades ago and pretty much all arguments against IPv6 are no longer relevant anymore. In most cases nowadays, the user experience for IPv6 will be far supe

Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 9/4/23 13:42, TWHG Technical via dovecot wrote: I believe it really would be good practice to fallback to IPV4 only listeners if IPV6 listener fails. Rather than crash out. On my previous reply, I had not yet read the other messages. They were part of another thread in Thunderbird that I

Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread TWHG Technical via dovecot
-- From: "Shawn Heisey" To: "dovecot" Sent: Monday, 4 September, 2023 21:13:42 Subject: Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start On 9/4/23 12:36, Michael Peddemors wrote: > However, I 'get' this persons' opinion, from a developers perspective. >

Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread gene heskett
On 9/4/23 12:20, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI via dovecot wrote: On 04/09/2023 11:12, TWHG Technical via dovecot wrote: But that is not this issue. The issue is that dovecot is assuming that IPV6 is there and crashes out if it's not. Hacking the config to only listen on IP4 solves the problem but not w

Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread Ralph Seichter via dovecot
* TWHG Technical via dovecot: > I hope this is the right place to start. Not really. What you are asking for (changing the default configuration provided by Ubuntu) is something better asked of the Ubuntu package maintainers, should they even agree with your assessment. They might tell you that a

Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 9/4/23 12:36, Michael Peddemors wrote: However, I 'get' this persons' opinion, from a developers perspective. The system should either run, or provide a clear reason why it didn't startup (that reason could be .. You have selected * but IPv6 is not available). Doesn't really matter what the

Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread TWHG Technical via dovecot
Sent: Monday, 4 September, 2023 19:36:45 Subject: Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start On 2023-09-04 08:58, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI via dovecot wrote: > On 04/09/2023 11:12, TWHG Technical via dovecot wrote: >> But that is not this issue. The issue is that dovecot is assuming th

Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread Michael Peddemors
On 2023-09-04 08:58, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI via dovecot wrote: On 04/09/2023 11:12, TWHG Technical via dovecot wrote: But that is not this issue. The issue is that dovecot is assuming that IPV6 is there and crashes out if it's not. Hacking the config to only listen on IP4 solves the problem but n

Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI via dovecot
On 04/09/2023 11:12, TWHG Technical via dovecot wrote: But that is not this issue. The issue is that dovecot is assuming that IPV6 is there and crashes out if it's not. Hacking the config to only listen on IP4 solves the problem but not while installing from standard repos to install the curre

Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 9/4/23 8:11 AM, Jochen Bern wrote: Define "disabled", please. I don't have many Ubuntu systems around, but on the RHEL/CentOS/Fedora ones, even if they have IPv6 set to "Ignore", the interfaces get link-local IPv6 addresses assigned - at which point IPv6 LISTENs will work, too. Of course,

DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread TWHG Technical via dovecot
IPV6 is disabled in the grub command line. So before the OS boots. So there is no IPV6 support in the system. Unless one enables it in the Grub bootloader. Cheers ___ dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-

Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread Jochen Bern
On 04.09.23 13:24, TWHG Technical wrote: on systems that have IP6 disabled dovecot will not start. Define "disabled", please. I don't have many Ubuntu systems around, but on the RHEL/CentOS/Fedora ones, even if they have IPv6 set to "Ignore", the interfaces get link-local IPv6 addresses assig

DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread TWHG Technical via dovecot
I think we are off topic. We have a network policy that until such time as we have fully implemented the same security we have on our IPV4 network we simply do not allow IPV6 as it is another attack vector we are not fully upto speed on. So we block all IPV6 at the perimeter and on all switche

Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread Aki Tuomi via dovecot
> On 04/09/2023 16:30 EEST TWHG Technical via dovecot > wrote: > > > I have tried replying twice. > > We have IPV6 disabled for security reasons on all server builds. An installer > script failed which is how we caught this issue. We can see it is due to the > config line. > > A gracef

Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread William Edwards via dovecot
TWHG Technical via dovecot schreef op 2023-09-04 15:30: I have tried replying twice. We have IPV6 disabled for security reasons on all server builds. IPv6 is secure, so that is not needed. An installer script failed which is how we caught this issue. We can see it is due to the config line.

Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread Bjoern Franke via dovecot
Hi, We have IPV6 disabled for security reasons on all server builds. Why did you disable it for security reasons? Regards Bjoern ___ dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-le...@dovecot.org

DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread TWHG Technical via dovecot
I have tried replying twice. We have IPV6 disabled for security reasons on all server builds. An installer script failed which is how we caught this issue. We can see it is due to the config line. A graceful fallback to IPV4 if the IPV6 stack is not available would seem to be an elegant solu

Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread William Edwards via dovecot
TWHG Technical via dovecot schreef op 2023-09-04 13:24: Hello, I hope this is the right place to start. Ubuntu server the default listener configuration in dovecot.conf uses both IP4 and IP6 on systems that have IP6 disabled dovecot will not start. Is it possible to set the default to: list

Re: DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread Thomas Schäfer
Am 04.09.23 um 13:24 schrieb TWHG Technical via dovecot: Hello, I hope this is the right place to start. Ubuntu server the default listener configuration in dovecot.conf uses both IP4 and IP6 I think that is a good default value. on systems that have IP6 disabled dovecot will not start.

DOvecot requires both IPv4 and IPV6 to start

2023-09-04 Thread TWHG Technical via dovecot
Hello, I hope this is the right place to start. Ubuntu server the default listener configuration in dovecot.conf uses both IP4 and IP6 on systems that have IP6 disabled dovecot will not start. Is it possible to set the default to: listen = * to only bind to IP4 for installation and initial