On Thu, 2007-05-24 at 14:53 -0500, Eric Rostetter wrote:
> I learned the last time this came up that people who can't understand
> why overloading IMAP with other protocols is bad also can't understand
> how ssh authentication works or what the difference is between a
> protocol and an application
On 5/24/07, Eric Rostetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Quoting Marc Perkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Yes - with the ability to ise IMAP as a connection channel you could do
> anything that Microsoft Exchange does and more. The idea is that you
> can establish a connection between any server app and
Quoting Marc Perkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Yes - with the ability to ise IMAP as a connection channel you could do
anything that Microsoft Exchange does and more. The idea is that you
can establish a connection between any server app and any client app.
Yes, this is correct, and what some people
Quoting Steffen Kaiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
On Thu, 24 May 2007, Johannes Berg wrote:
You need to start distinguishing between "SSH the protocol" and "SSH the
shell implementation", afaict the protocol should allow any use like
this without ever granting access to a shell, like sftp-server etc
On May 24, 2007, at 12:55 PM, Geert Hendrickx wrote:
Also keep in mind that people dump Exchange because it's slow,
complex and
buggy, whereas Dovecot is mean and lean.
Remember the old UNIX paradigm -- do one thing and do it well.
Dovecot is
an IMAP server, and does the job well. A calen
On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 08:50:11AM -0700, Marc Perkel wrote:
> Keep in mind that one of the reasons people buy Exchange is because
> Exchange does things that people want. A calendar is one of many
> examples. But to start with I'm thinking more in terms of controlling
> server side email settings.
Robert Schetterer wrote:
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Frank Cusack schrieb:
On May 23, 2007 12:33:04 PM -0700 David Jonas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Frank Cusack wrote:
On May 23, 2007 11:54:20 AM -0700 Marc Perkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
IMAP es
On 5/24/07, Johannes Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, 2007-05-24 at 08:33 +0200, Steffen Kaiser wrote:
> It might, but the server doesn't.
> Many IMAP servers do not allow users to have SSH access on the box, but
> prefer locking them down, e.g. with Webinterfaces or IMAP. Also, Dovecot
>
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On Thu, 24 May 2007, Johannes Berg wrote:
You need to start distinguishing between "SSH the protocol" and "SSH the
shell implementation", afaict the protocol should allow any use like
this without ever granting access to a shell, like sftp-server et
On Thu, 2007-05-24 at 08:33 +0200, Steffen Kaiser wrote:
> It might, but the server doesn't.
> Many IMAP servers do not allow users to have SSH access on the box, but
> prefer locking them down, e.g. with Webinterfaces or IMAP. Also, Dovecot
> has other ways of authentification, e.g. Virtual Use
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DINH Viêt Hoà schrieb:
> On 5/24/07, Timo Sirainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 2007-05-24 at 09:37 +0200, Adi Kriegisch wrote:
>> > As a calendaring solution with group calendars and all the like, use
>> CalDAV
>> > -- a webdav extension desi
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Curtis Maloney schrieb:
> Robert Schetterer wrote:
>> Hi all, i think sombody would have like to a imap calender solution
>> implemented in dovecot? Am i right here?
>>
>> You can have simular right now using thunderbird , lightning, kolab
>> plugin, (
On 5/24/07, Timo Sirainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, 2007-05-24 at 09:37 +0200, Adi Kriegisch wrote:
> As a calendaring solution with group calendars and all the like, use CalDAV
> -- a webdav extension designed for exactly that purpose. There is an
> excellent implementation available at
On Thu, 2007-05-24 at 09:37 +0200, Adi Kriegisch wrote:
> As a calendaring solution with group calendars and all the like, use CalDAV
> -- a webdav extension designed for exactly that purpose. There is an
> excellent implementation available at: http://rscds.sourceforge.net/ (also
> Apple has relea
Adi Kriegisch wrote:
[snip]
Dovecot is an excellent piece of software. It is fast, compatible, has an
enourmous amount of configuration possibilities and just works. I very well
understand that software like this is rare -- but by demanding extensions
that have nothing to do with what that softwa
Hi!
> Wouldn't it be great if it could be a conduit to let custom Thunderbird
> plugins talk to custom server application over the IMAP interface? For
> >>>
> >>> Sounds like a job for ACAP.
> >>
> >> "It's rumoured to be the most complex Internet Engineering Task Force
> >> designed pro
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Frank Cusack schrieb:
> On May 23, 2007 12:33:04 PM -0700 David Jonas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Frank Cusack wrote:
>>> On May 23, 2007 11:54:20 AM -0700 Marc Perkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
IMAP establishes a connection between the
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On Thu, 24 May 2007, DINH Viêt Hoà wrote:
By the was, I don't understand why a thunderbird plugin would not be
able to do ssh :)
It might, but the server doesn't.
Many IMAP servers do not allow users to have SSH access on the box, but
prefer lock
On May 23, 2007 12:33:04 PM -0700 David Jonas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Frank Cusack wrote:
On May 23, 2007 11:54:20 AM -0700 Marc Perkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
IMAP establishes a connection between the client and the server.
Wouldn't it be great if it could be a conduit to let custom Th
On 5/23/07, David Jonas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Frank Cusack wrote:
> On May 23, 2007 11:54:20 AM -0700 Marc Perkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> IMAP establishes a connection between the client and the server. Wouldn't
>> it be great if it could be a conduit to let custom Thunderbird plugins
On 5/23/07, Rick Romero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 21:11 +0200, DINH Viêt Hoà wrote:
> why not use ssh for that purpose ?
You wouldn't necessarily want all your users to ssh into your mail
server, or deal with the configuration of that.
And what about a chrooted environme
Frank Cusack wrote:
> On May 23, 2007 11:54:20 AM -0700 Marc Perkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> IMAP establishes a connection between the client and the server. Wouldn't
>> it be great if it could be a conduit to let custom Thunderbird plugins
>> talk to custom server application over the IMAP
funkypunky drunky wrote:
Yeah it is a great idea. For example with a good plugin which is used
in a Webmail environment. Individual clients may submit spam mails to
the email server with these imap "extension" and it will create self
control against with the users of email server.
Yep -
Marc Perkel, 23.05.2007 (d.m.y):
> IMAP establishes a connection between the client and the server.
> Wouldn't it be great if it could be a conduit to let custom Thunderbird
> plugins talk to custom server application over the IMAP interface? For
> example, personalized server settings. Suppose
Marc Perkel wrote:
Here's some thoughts I'd like to throw out there. I know it's not
standard IMAP protocol but someone has to try new ideas first and I want
to see what people (Timo) think of this.
IMAP establishes a connection between the client and the server.
Wouldn't it be great if it co
Yeah it is a great idea. For example with a good plugin which is used in a
Webmail environment. Individual clients may submit spam mails to the email
server with these imap "extension" and it will create self control against
with the users of email server.
2007/5/23, Frank Cusack <[EMAIL PROTECTE
On May 23, 2007 11:54:20 AM -0700 Marc Perkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
IMAP establishes a connection between the client and the server. Wouldn't
it be great if it could be a conduit to let custom Thunderbird plugins
talk to custom server application over the IMAP interface? For example,
persona
On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 21:11 +0200, DINH Viêt Hoà wrote:
> why not use ssh for that purpose ?
You wouldn't necessarily want all your users to ssh into your mail
server, or deal with the configuration of that.
Doing it through dovecot means it's already locked down to some point.
I wonder if I cou
why not use ssh for that purpose ?
On 5/23/07, Marc Perkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
10 days ago I proposed this addition (see below) to Dovecot and got a
lot of positive response. I would like to make it happen. I'm willing to
contribute $500 to the development of this feature. It doesn't have
10 days ago I proposed this addition (see below) to Dovecot and got a
lot of positive response. I would like to make it happen. I'm willing to
contribute $500 to the development of this feature. It doesn't have to
be implemented perfectly but needs to be workable to the extent that I
can telnet
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