Re: [Dovecot] Server-side sieve for client-side copies

2008-07-29 Thread Anders Melchiorsen
Daniel L. Miller wrote: But...then I still need to get my users to not have their "Sent" enabled or I'll have a lot of duplication. Including the users who are using remote clients. Hah! I still want my APPEND-Sieve support! (writing again, now with my subscribed sender address) What is

Re: [Dovecot] Server-side sieve for client-side copies

2008-07-29 Thread Uldis Pakuls
Daniel L. Miller wrote: While it's usually appropriate to assume I'm ignorant, naive, or generally speaking out of my @ss, I'm afraid the responses I've received don't answer the question I asked. I do understand how the MUA talks to the MTA and the whole SMTP/IMAP thing. I rambled a little

Re: [Dovecot] Server-side sieve for client-side copies

2008-07-29 Thread Daniel L. Miller
Stephan Bosch wrote: Daniel L. Miller wrote: The question: can Dovecot be configured to support sieve filters on IMAP (not just SMTP) operations (Eduardo helped me here - so I'll specifically ask about the APPEND command). It is quite funny that you bring this up right now, because as

Re: [Dovecot] Server-side sieve for client-side copies

2008-07-29 Thread Daniel L. Miller
Anders Melchiorsen wrote: Daniel L. Miller wrote: First - I can't argue the point about BCC'ing - you're certainly correct that that would be the "simplest" solution in terms of immediate implementation - if we assume users are willing to change their habits. Since I don't - I'm exploring ser

Re: [Dovecot] Server-side sieve for client-side copies

2008-07-29 Thread Anders Melchiorsen
Daniel L. Miller wrote: First - I can't argue the point about BCC'ing - you're certainly correct that that would be the "simplest" solution in terms of immediate implementation - if we assume users are willing to change their habits. Since I don't - I'm exploring server-side options If you

Re: [Dovecot] Server-side sieve for client-side copies

2008-07-29 Thread Stephan Bosch
Daniel L. Miller wrote: > The question: can Dovecot be configured to support sieve filters on > IMAP (not just SMTP) operations (Eduardo helped me here - so I'll > specifically ask about the APPEND command). It is quite funny that you bring this up right now, because as a matter of fact there is a

Re: [Dovecot] Server-side sieve for client-side copies

2008-07-29 Thread Daniel L. Miller
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: Daniel L. Miller escreveu: So, without changing the MUA/MTA/IMAP interaction, the IMAP server will simply file new messages according to user-set rules. Doesn't address the multiple-transfer issue at all, but does provide an option for centralized control of messag

Re: [Dovecot] Server-side sieve for client-side copies

2008-07-29 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Daniel L. Miller escreveu: So, without changing the MUA/MTA/IMAP interaction, the IMAP server will simply file new messages according to user-set rules. Doesn't address the multiple-transfer issue at all, but does provide an option for centralized control of message filing. With the APPEND c

Re: [Dovecot] Server-side sieve for client-side copies

2008-07-29 Thread Daniel L. Miller
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: Daniel L. Miller escreveu: The question: can Dovecot be configured to support sieve filters on IMAP (not just SMTP) operations (Eduardo helped me here - so I'll specifically ask about the APPEND command). If not , I'll make that a feature-request - "Timo, can Dove

Re: [Dovecot] Server-side sieve for client-side copies

2008-07-29 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Daniel L. Miller escreveu: The question: can Dovecot be configured to support sieve filters on IMAP (not just SMTP) operations (Eduardo helped me here - so I'll specifically ask about the APPEND command). If not , I'll make that a feature-request - "Timo, can Dovecot be modified to support s

Re: [Dovecot] Server-side sieve for client-side copies

2008-07-29 Thread Daniel L. Miller
Patrick Nagel wrote: Hi, On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:38:19 -0700, "Daniel L. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My understanding is that sending a message from a client (use Thunderbird for simplicity of this conversation) is performed via SMTP. Saving a copy into a sent folder is performed via

Re: [Dovecot] Server-side sieve for client-side copies

2008-07-28 Thread Patrick Nagel
Hi, On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 09:38:19 -0700, "Daniel L. Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My understanding is that sending a message from a client (use > Thunderbird for simplicity of this conversation) is performed via SMTP. > Saving a copy into a sent folder is performed via IMAP (hence the >

Re: [Dovecot] Server-side sieve for client-side copies

2008-07-28 Thread Scott Silva
on 7-28-2008 9:38 AM Daniel L. Miller spake the following: I know I could test this - but I'd rather ask first. To my knowledge, we haven't come up with a good server-side implementation for savings copies of sent messages (by all means correct my ignorance in this regard). So the typical way

Re: [Dovecot] Server-side sieve for client-side copies

2008-07-28 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Daniel L. Miller escreveu: My understanding is that sending a message from a client (use Thunderbird for simplicity of this conversation) is performed via SMTP. Saving a copy into a sent folder is performed via IMAP (hence the multiple transfers to the server). Now that I've laid a backgroun

[Dovecot] Server-side sieve for client-side copies

2008-07-28 Thread Daniel L. Miller
I know I could test this - but I'd rather ask first. To my knowledge, we haven't come up with a good server-side implementation for savings copies of sent messages (by all means correct my ignorance in this regard). So the typical way is to enable it in clients like Thunderbird (this prompted