Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-07 Thread Patrick Nagel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Karsten / Guenther, On 2010-03-06 01:18, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 14:01 +0800, Patrick Nagel wrote: >> On 2010-03-05 07:49, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > >>> I don't recall any, other than plain refusal to use a dedicated

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-07 Thread Steinar Bang
> Timo Sirainen : > Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the > prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind of > annoying to me whenever I happen to think about it. FWIW I read the lit in prefix-stripped form, via NNTP to news.gmane.org, so I neve

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-05 Thread Joseph Yee
If prefix is not prefer by some, but many others still want to see the tag in subject line, what about suffix? Can it be done? just a thought Joseph On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 2:22 PM, James Butler wrote: > Eric Rostetter wrote: >> >> Quoting Timo Sirainen : >> >>> Do you think I'd break a lot of p

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-05 Thread James Butler
Eric Rostetter wrote: Quoting Timo Sirainen : Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind of annoying to me whenever I happen to think about it. It wouldn't break any of my filters. Personally, I like it w

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-05 Thread Eric Rostetter
Quoting Timo Sirainen : Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind of annoying to me whenever I happen to think about it. I personally like it, and would miss it, but it wouldn't break anything for me...

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-05 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 09:50 +, Ed W wrote: > I would suggest it might be an over-bold move given that it changes the > requirement to understand your filtering LDA from beginner to > intermediate, [...] This is an IMAP *server* list. It should be fairly safe to assume mail admins exceeded th

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-05 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 14:01 +0800, Patrick Nagel wrote: > On 2010-03-05 07:49, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > I don't recall any, other than plain refusal to use a dedicated folder, > > rather than dumping it all into the Inbox... > > IMO, Michael M. Slusarz had a valid reason: Frankly, I disagr

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-05 Thread Andrzej Adam Filip
Timo Sirainen wrote: > Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the > prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind of > annoying to me whenever I happen to think about it. You can filter it out "for yourself", can not you? ;-) I would suggest to keep it

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-05 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Frank Elsner put forth on 3/4/2010 3:51 PM: > Removal gives 10 chars more for the subject. Remove it. And what ever will people do with those extra 10 characters. I've got 1744 messages in my Dovecot folder and not one has a subject line too long to fit in my MUA. I say ban all the people wasti

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-05 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 05:57 -0500, Charles Marcus wrote: > On 2010-03-05 5:28 AM, Noel Butler wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 03:57 -0500, Charles Marcus wrote: > >> On 3/5/2010 1:17 AM, Noel Butler wrote: > >>> of the myriad of lists im' on and have been on for many many years, > >>> only nanog

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-05 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-03-05 5:28 AM, Noel Butler wrote: > On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 03:57 -0500, Charles Marcus wrote: >> On 3/5/2010 1:17 AM, Noel Butler wrote: >>> of the myriad of lists im' on and have been on for many many years, >>> only nanog and bind lists dont use tags. >> postfix doesn't, and I know you're

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-05 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 03:57 -0500, Charles Marcus wrote: > On 3/5/2010 1:17 AM, Noel Butler wrote: > > of the myriad of lists im' on and have been on for many many years, > > only nanog and bind lists dont use tags. > > postfix doesn't, and I know you're on there (you replied to the > 'copy-to-se

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-05 Thread Ed W
On 04/03/2010 20:59, Timo Sirainen wrote: Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind of annoying to me whenever I happen to think about it. Doesn't bother me, but I have a feeling that at least some of

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-05 Thread Charles Marcus
On 3/5/2010 1:17 AM, Noel Butler wrote: > of the myriad of lists im' on and have been on for many many years, > only nanog and bind lists dont use tags. postfix doesn't, and I know you're on there (you replied to the 'copy-to-sent' thread with some helpful hints)... ;) -- Best regards, Charles

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 22:43 +0100, Marcus Rueckert wrote: > On 2010-03-04 22:59:59 +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote: > > Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the > > prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind of > > annoying to me whenever I happen to thin

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Patrick Nagel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2010-03-05 07:49, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 00:45 +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote: >> On 4.3.2010, at 22.59, Timo Sirainen wrote: >> >>> Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the >>> prefix? :) Anyone stro

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread /dev/rob0
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 12:45:45AM +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote: > On 4.3.2010, at 22.59, Timo Sirainen wrote: > > Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the > > prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind > > of annoying to me whenever I happen to think

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Stefan Foerster
* Timo Sirainen : > Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the > prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind of > annoying to me whenever I happen to think about it. -1 I don't need any [tag] for filtering, that's what plus'd addresses or List-Id heade

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 00:45 +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote: > On 4.3.2010, at 22.59, Timo Sirainen wrote: > > > Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the > > prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind of > > annoying to me whenever I happen to think about

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-03-04 5:24 PM, John R. Dennison wrote: > I use mutt and I do not presort into folders; however I do > have macros to limit display to various lists I am on so I can > go through messages and threads as I have time to do so. So change the macros to filter based on list-id rather than someth

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-03-04 4:55 PM, Ben Winslow wrote: > Although I filter on List-Id, occasionally my filters break and I end up > receiving a bunch of list messages in my INBOX. When this happens, the > first thing I do after fixing my filters is search for mailing list tags > in subjects (because practicall

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 4.3.2010, at 22.59, Timo Sirainen wrote: > Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the > prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind of > annoying to me whenever I happen to think about it. Well, it's beginning to sound like there are non-filtering r

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Charles Sprickman
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Rick Romero wrote: Quoting "Harlan Stenn" : I would have preferred this be a private reply but I like to honor the sender's request re Reply-To:. I have a slight preference for keeping the [Dovecot] prefix in the Subject: header, as it makes it really obvious to me where a

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Ralph Seichter
On 04.03.10 21:59, Timo Sirainen wrote: > Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the > prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? I'd strongly prefer you removing the prefix. One can assume that most list members use a Dovecot server backend. Simply add a sieve rul

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread John R. Dennison
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 10:59:59PM +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote: > Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the > prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind of > annoying to me whenever I happen to think about it. -1 on removal. I use mutt

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Ben Winslow
On 03/04/2010 03:59 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: > Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the > prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind of > annoying to me whenever I happen to think about it. I vote to keep it. Although I filter on List-Id, occasional

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Frank Elsner
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:59:59 +0200 Timo Sirainen wrote: > Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the > prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind of > annoying to me whenever I happen to think about it. Removal gives 10 chars more for the subject. Remo

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Marcus Rueckert
On 2010-03-04 22:59:59 +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote: > Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the > prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind of > annoying to me whenever I happen to think about it. personally i like the prefixes. especially to sort off

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Jerry
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:59:59 +0200 Timo Sirainen articulated: > Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the > prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind of > annoying to me whenever I happen to think about it. > Personally, I filter on the List-Id, s

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Frank Cusack
It's a shame that this isn't a per-user option. mailman already enforces adding the prefix if it isn't present so there's no reason for it to be a global option. Looks like this feature request has been open for 5 years. :(

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Frank Cusack wrote: On 2/25/10 2:10 PM -0700 Ashley M. Kirchner wrote: A very simple procmail recipe can add those prefixes for you or remove them. Agreed, though I was focusing on those who have a preference to keeping them. :) -- W | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature.

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Michael M. Slusarz
Quoting Timo Sirainen : Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind of annoying to me whenever I happen to think about it. List-Id has been mentioned as the replacement mechanism by some, but the main iss

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Frank Cusack
On 3/4/10 10:59 PM +0200 Timo Sirainen wrote: Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind of annoying to me whenever I happen to think about it. Do you really need to ask? You'd definitely break a lot of fi

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread B. Johannessen
On 4 March 2010 22:04, Braden McDaniel wrote: > On 3/4/10 3:59 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: >> Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the >> prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind of >> annoying to me whenever I happen to think about it. > > Only peopl

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Rick Romero
Quoting "Harlan Stenn" : I would have preferred this be a private reply but I like to honor the sender's request re Reply-To:. I have a slight preference for keeping the [Dovecot] prefix in the Subject: header, as it makes it really obvious to me where a message in my inbox comes from. I have

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-03-04 4:04 PM, Braden McDaniel wrote: > On 3/4/10 3:59 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: >> Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the >> prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind of >> annoying to me whenever I happen to think about it. > Only people

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
Harlan Stenn wrote: I have a slight preference for keeping the [Dovecot] prefix in the Subject: header, as it makes it really obvious to me where a message in my inbox comes from. I have never liked to pre-sort incoming messages into separate folders. The fact that the prefix is relativelyh sho

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Harlan Stenn
I would have preferred this be a private reply but I like to honor the sender's request re Reply-To:. I have a slight preference for keeping the [Dovecot] prefix in the Subject: header, as it makes it really obvious to me where a message in my inbox comes from. I have never liked to pre-sort inco

Re: [Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Braden McDaniel
On 3/4/10 3:59 PM, Timo Sirainen wrote: > Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the > prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind of > annoying to me whenever I happen to think about it. Only people who deserve to have them break. ;-) It's 2010. List

[Dovecot] Mailing list's prefix

2010-03-04 Thread Timo Sirainen
Do you think I'd break a lot of people's filters if I removed the prefix? :) Anyone strongly for/against removing it? It seems kind of annoying to me whenever I happen to think about it. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part