Re: [Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-14 Thread Ed W
You might consider how to direct your needy users to a mail server instance that has Maildir. If you are afraid, or its difficult to wedge this into your current setup, you could have a completely different mail server host their mail, and you could use a MX server and/or a perdition IMAP

Re: [Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-14 Thread Charles Marcus
On 3/13/2008, Scott Silva ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I just tried to do a mass move Define 'mass move'... -- Best regards, Charles

Re: [Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-14 Thread Charles Marcus
On 3/13/2008, Timo Sirainen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Mar 6 09:05:48 mercury mail:info imapd[970952]: Killed (lost mailbox lock) user =x host=cpe-24-161-103-11.hvc.res.rr.com [24.161.103.11] Those are UW-IMAP messages! Dovecot doesn't kill connections over a mbox lock. Ouch... so, two

Re: [Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-13 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Thu, 2008-03-13 at 15:02 -0400, Stewart Dean wrote: > > Mar 5 03:06:09 mercury mail:info imapd[2085096]: Login user=sshore > > host=bda037. > > bis.na.blackberry.com [216.9.249.37] .. > > Mar 6 09:05:48 mercury mail:info imapd[970952]: Killed (lost mailbox lock) > > user > > =x host=cpe-

Re: [Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-13 Thread mouss
Scott Silva wrote: on 3-13-2008 12:58 PM Stewart Dean spake the following: I didn't field DC until 1.0 and have kept pretty much up to date...these problems were present with UWIMAP but got somewhat better since the switchover to DC. I can't imagine how DC could deal with two clients working on

Re: [Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-13 Thread Scott Silva
on 3-13-2008 12:58 PM Stewart Dean spake the following: I didn't field DC until 1.0 and have kept pretty much up to date...these problems were present with UWIMAP but got somewhat better since the switchover to DC. I can't imagine how DC could deal with two clients working on the same mbox inbo

Re: [Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-13 Thread Stewart Dean
I didn't field DC until 1.0 and have kept pretty much up to date...these problems were present with UWIMAP but got somewhat better since the switchover to DC. I can't imagine how DC could deal with two clients working on the same mbox inbox, where the first instance has changes that are local to

Re: [Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-13 Thread Adam McDougall
Stewart Dean wrote: and here are some clients fighting over the lock Mar 6 09:05:48 mercury mail:info imapd[970952]: Killed (lost mailbox lock) user =x host=cpe-24-161-103-11.hvc.res.rr.com [24.161.103.11] Mar 6 09:08:04 mercury mail:info imapd[844000]: Killed (lost mailbox lock) user =

Re: [Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-13 Thread Scott Silva
on 3-13-2008 12:02 PM Stewart Dean spake the following: It's been a while so I don't have the logs any more except for what was in my Sent folder As an example of what I am talking about, here is BB polling every 15 minutes in the maillog: Is your dovecot version fairly current? This lo

Re: [Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-13 Thread Stewart Dean
It's been a while so I don't have the logs any more except for what was in my Sent folder As an example of what I am talking about, here is BB polling every 15 minutes in the maillog: Mar 5 03:06:09 mercury mail:info imapd[2085096]: Login user=sshore host=bda037. bis.na.blackberry.com [

Re: [Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-13 Thread Scott Silva
on 3-13-2008 11:14 AM Knute Johnson spake the following: so far: LogicMail...V0.4.0 (not even V1.x, but O.x...is this beta?) http://www.logicprobe.org/proj/logicmail http://www.berryreview.com/2007/10/30/faq-alternative-3rd-party-email-applications-for-blackberry/ http://www.berryreview.com/2007/

Re: [Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-13 Thread Knute Johnson
>so far: >LogicMail...V0.4.0 (not even V1.x, but O.x...is this beta?) >http://www.logicprobe.org/proj/logicmail >http://www.berryreview.com/2007/10/30/faq-alternative-3rd-party-email-applications-for-blackberry/ >http://www.berryreview.com/2007/08/22/logicmail-free-imap-pop3-client-for-blackberry/

Re: [Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-13 Thread Benjamin R. Haskell
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Stewart Dean wrote: Plus I have to wonder what the realities of moving from 1) mbox with one monster file to 2) maildir with inodes beyond measure and its effect on backup. With reasonable average email usage patterns (averaging >=4K/message -- not hard to do with the oc

Re: [Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-13 Thread Stewart Dean
so far: LogicMail...V0.4.0 (not even V1.x, but O.x...is this beta?) http://www.logicprobe.org/proj/logicmail http://www.berryreview.com/2007/10/30/faq-alternative-3rd-party-email-applications-for-blackberry/ http://www.berryreview.com/2007/08/22/logicmail-free-imap-pop3-client-for-blackberry/ in

Re: [Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-13 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Stewart Dean wrote: Sure it will in your situation...but when you have more than one client going after the mailbox, they'll step on each other's work n vanilla Dovecot. And in this case there are at least 2 and as many as 4 or 5 mail clients all open at the same time goi

Re: [Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-13 Thread Stewart Dean
No. Other than: a) the griping fear of me personally (1 person) migrating 4000 users and b) the recurrent experience of trying to marshal everything necessary to do it, getting about a tenth of the way into *beginning* it and having some 4-alarm fire interrupt things...and then it's a month or

Re: [Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-13 Thread Knute Johnson
>Sure it will in your situation...but when you have more than one client going >after the mailbox, they'll step on each other's work n vanilla Dovecot. And >in >this case there are at least 2 and as many as 4 or 5 mail clients all open at >the same time going after an mbox format inbox. We or

Re: [Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-13 Thread Stewart Dean
Sure it will in your situation...but when you have more than one client going after the mailbox, they'll step on each other's work n vanilla Dovecot. And in this case there are at least 2 and as many as 4 or 5 mail clients all open at the same time going after an mbox format inbox. We original

Re: [Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-13 Thread Benjamin R. Haskell
Stewart Dean wrote: BB, of course, has their half-baked sorta-IMAP-compliant client (and we do NOT want the BB Enterprise Server) that persistently keeps grabbing the mailbox and breaking the mailbox lock, causing no end of grief for the secretaries (plural, more than one) would also work with th

Re: [Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-13 Thread Bruce Bodger
On Mar 13, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Stewart Dean wrote: The CFO of our college, a most formidable man, had decided to go Blackberry and Something Functional Must Be Done. We've had some users who we've not supported (and things got better for them when we switched from UWIMAP to Dovecot). Pro

Re: [Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-13 Thread Knute Johnson
>The CFO of our college, a most formidable man, had decided to go Blackberry >and >Something Functional Must Be Done. We've had some users who we've not >supported >(and things got better for them when we switched from UWIMAP to Dovecot). > >BB, of course, has their half-baked sorta-IMAP-compl

[Dovecot] Help! OT: Blackberry IMAP client suggestions/experience needed

2008-03-13 Thread Stewart Dean
The CFO of our college, a most formidable man, had decided to go Blackberry and Something Functional Must Be Done. We've had some users who we've not supported (and things got better for them when we switched from UWIMAP to Dovecot). BB, of course, has their half-baked sorta-IMAP-compliant cli