Re: [Dovecot] Deferred emails on alias emails

2009-02-05 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2/5/2009, Jehan Pagès (jehan.marmott...@gmail.com) wrote: > Yes but the issue was only this one time because I sent in one single row > several days of emails on an account which exists for years and years (so > unfortunately my friend has now many spams in several days, as well as many > real e

Re: [Dovecot] Deferred emails on alias emails

2009-02-05 Thread Jehan Pagès
Hi, On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: > Um.. did you or did you not say: > > "In my case, most of these messages were forwarded to the gmail servers, > and as there were many spams unfortunately in these emails forwarded > (and it's not my server's purpose to remove the spams

Re: [Dovecot] Deferred emails on alias emails

2009-02-05 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2/5/2009, Jehan Pagès (jehan.marmott...@gmail.com) wrote: > I won't forward spam to you, I already told you. This is just an email alias > for a friend. It is just a email translation for a single external email > which has been explicitely asked. My smtp server is not an open relay for > any or

Re: [Dovecot] Deferred emails on alias emails

2009-02-05 Thread Jehan Pagès
Hi, On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Scott Silva wrote: > But if you relay any spam and get blacklisted for it, you will be the one > that > suffers. The blacklists don't care what your point of view is or if you > generated the spam or just relayed it. > > Then everyone on your server will suffe

Re: [Dovecot] Deferred emails on alias emails

2009-02-05 Thread Scott Silva
on 2-5-2009 6:47 AM Jehan Pagès spake the following: > Hi, > > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Charles Marcus > wrote: > >> Not sure what net neutrality has to do with this... unless you are >> syaing you are operating an ISP service? >> > > As for I, net neutrality is not about ISP only, but a

Re: [Dovecot] Deferred emails on alias emails

2009-02-05 Thread Jehan Pagès
Hi, On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Charles Marcus wrote: > Not sure what net neutrality has to do with this... unless you are > syaing you are operating an ISP service? > As for I, net neutrality is not about ISP only, but also for service providers (even if not professional like I, just for th

Re: [Dovecot] Deferred emails on alias emails

2009-02-05 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2/5/2009, Jehan Pagès (jehan.marmott...@gmail.com) wrote: > That's unfortunate, but I cannot do what you say for these reasons. This is > somehow a question of network neutrality ( > http://dig.csail.mit.edu/breadcrumbs/node/144 ). Not sure what net neutrality has to do with this... unless you

Re: [Dovecot] Deferred emails on alias emails

2009-02-05 Thread Jehan Pagès
Hi, I don't agree. If antispam systems were really 100% sure to never have any false positive, I would agree (having false negative is less an issue). But we all know that such system does not exist yet (and probably never will IMHO, even though efficiency may increase to close to 100%, as it is s

Re: [Dovecot] Deferred emails on alias emails

2009-02-05 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2/5/2009, Jehan Pagès (jehan.marmott...@gmail.com) wrote: > and as there were many spams unfortunately in these emails forwarded > (and it's not my server's purpose to remove the spams when > forwarding), all requeued and sent in the following minutes, I saw in > my logs that gmail has tempora

Re: [Dovecot] Deferred emails on alias emails

2009-02-05 Thread Jehan Pagès
Hi, I finally found my solution so I give it here if ever it interestes anyone. I needed to use "postsuper -r ALL" in order to requeue the whole message list and they were then using the new postfix configuration. Note though that if you have a lot lot of spooled messages, the "ALL" is maybe not

[Dovecot] Deferred emails on alias emails

2009-02-04 Thread Jehan Pagès
Hi, I am currently making a fresh install of email server. I am having some issue with dovecot-antispam (cf. other emails), and noticed that I was having issues on aliases, which apparently where not forwarded to the actual SMTP server after passing through dspam. Still don't figure why but tempor