Re: [Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-19 Thread Robin
On 3/17/2012 12:36 PM, Sven Hartge wrote: > Storing mails inside SQL? Not supported by dovecot and not very wise, > IMHO. DBmail does this, but to be honest, I never heard any good > feedback from admins using that product. From what I have been told, you > need quite the beefy server to get a dece

Re: [Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-18 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 18.3.2012, at 17.36, Charles Marcus wrote: > On 2012-03-18 11:15 AM, Timo Sirainen wrote: >> Only time when the entire mbox file is rewritten is when you >> expunge the first message. > > Hmmm... wonder if there would be a way to add some kind of 'dummy' first > message that dovecot would s

Re: [Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-18 Thread Jan-Frode Myklebust
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 11:36:25AM -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: > > Hmmm... wonder if there would be a way to add some kind of 'dummy' > first message that dovecot would simply ignore (not show to the > user), that would prevent that bevaior? That's what uw-imap does. It creates a message with th

Re: [Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-18 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2012-03-18 11:15 AM, Timo Sirainen wrote: Only time when the entire mbox file is rewritten is when you expunge the first message. Hmmm... wonder if there would be a way to add some kind of 'dummy' first message that dovecot would simply ignore (not show to the user), that would prevent th

Re: [Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-18 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2012-03-18 5:16 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Is your problem with the PST files themselves, or merely the fact they're stored on the local PC, probably in the users' roaming profiles, thus creating the problem of large data movement during logon/off? If so, using redirected folders (if you're n

Re: [Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-18 Thread Sven Hartge
Timo Sirainen wrote: > On 18.3.2012, at 0.28, Sven Hartge wrote: >> mbox has big problems with concurrent writes, the bigger the mbox is, >> the more problems you get. This is mainly caused by the meta-data of >> a message (meaning flags, status, etc.) which is stored inside the >> mbox file itse

Re: [Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-18 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 18.3.2012, at 0.28, Sven Hartge wrote: > mbox has big problems with concurrent writes, the bigger the mbox is, > the more problems you get. This is mainly caused by the meta-data of a > message (meaning flags, status, etc.) which is stored inside the mbox > file itself. Flagging a message as re

Re: [Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-18 Thread Kaya Saman
On 03/18/2012 09:16 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 3/17/2012 4:24 PM, Kaya Saman wrote: Long story but we don't have any control over our mail server which is handled by the parent company abroad and is on MS Exchange. To use an IMAP storage solution is the only way to get rid of pesky MS .pst fi

Re: [Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-18 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 3/17/2012 4:24 PM, Kaya Saman wrote: > Long story but we don't have any control over our mail server which is > handled by the parent company abroad and is on MS Exchange. > > To use an IMAP storage solution is the only way to get rid of pesky MS > .pst files which have been causing everyone g

Re: [Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-17 Thread Kaya Saman
On 03/18/2012 12:32 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: Kaya Saman wrote: Once we get setup this may come in quite handy! Not sure what's going on currently as everyone above me is still quite set in using an SQL DB as a mail storage system??? RDBMS where not designed for such a task. Using a relational

Re: [Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-17 Thread Sven Hartge
Kaya Saman wrote: > Once we get setup this may come in quite handy! Not sure what's going > on currently as everyone above me is still quite set in using an SQL > DB as a mail storage system??? RDBMS where not designed for such a task. Using a relational database as a storage method for big chu

Re: [Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-17 Thread Kaya Saman
On 03/18/2012 12:04 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: Kaya Saman wrote: Flat files are not evil or bad or slow per se, but you have to use them the right way. Thanks a lot for that info. I will research more into this but I maybe overridden at some point :-( Need to make a strong case! Hmm. Just becau

Re: [Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-17 Thread Sven Hartge
Kaya Saman wrote: >> Flat files are not evil or bad or slow per se, but you have to use >> them the right way. > Thanks a lot for that info. I will research more into this but I maybe > overridden at some point :-( > Need to make a strong case! Hmm. Just because Microsofts way of usage of fla

Re: [Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-17 Thread Kaya Saman
On 03/17/2012 10:28 PM, Sven Hartge wrote: Kaya Saman wrote: Question: do you need public or shared folders? I don't need anything apart from an IMAP storage solution. I don't intend to tie in Dovecot with an MTA either as I will simply be using this for storage. Long story but we don't have

Re: [Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-17 Thread Sven Hartge
Kaya Saman wrote: > >> Question: do you need public or shared folders? > I don't need anything apart from an IMAP storage solution. I don't > intend to tie in Dovecot with an MTA either as I will simply be using > this for storage. > Long story but we don't have any control over our mail server

Re: [Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-17 Thread Kaya Saman
On 03/17/2012 09:51 PM, Spyros Tsiolis wrote: Hi, I am currently in the process of setting up an IMAP repository for round 100 users Currently the user authentication method is being handled via a Windows Domain Controller. The host OS for Dovecot will either be FreeBSD or CentOS. Woul

Re: [Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-17 Thread Spyros Tsiolis
>Hi, > >I am currently in the process of setting up an IMAP repository for round 100 >users > >Currently the user authentication method is being handled via a Windows Domain >Controller. > >The host OS for Dovecot will either be FreeBSD or CentOS. > > >Would Dovecot be able to authenticate to

Re: [Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-17 Thread Kaya Saman
Thanks so much Sven for your indepth and complete responses! Question: do you need public or shared folders? I don't need anything apart from an IMAP storage solution. I don't intend to tie in Dovecot with an MTA either as I will simply be using this for storage. Long story but we don't

Re: [Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-17 Thread Sven Hartge
Kaya Saman wrote: > On 03/17/2012 07:36 PM, Sven Hartge wrote: >> Kaya Saman wrote: >>> I am currently in the process of setting up an IMAP repository for >>> round 100 users Currently the user authentication method is >>> being handled via a Windows Domain Controller. The host OS for >>>

Re: [Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-17 Thread Kaya Saman
On 03/17/2012 07:36 PM, Sven Hartge wrote: Kaya Saman wrote: I am currently in the process of setting up an IMAP repository for round 100 users Currently the user authentication method is being handled via a Windows Domain Controller. The host OS for Dovecot will either be FreeBSD or CentO

Re: [Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-17 Thread Sven Hartge
Kaya Saman wrote: > I am currently in the process of setting up an IMAP repository for > round 100 users > Currently the user authentication method is being handled via a > Windows Domain Controller. > The host OS for Dovecot will either be FreeBSD or CentOS. > Would Dovecot be able to aut

[Dovecot] Creating an IMAP repo for ~100 users need some advice

2012-03-17 Thread Kaya Saman
Hi, I am currently in the process of setting up an IMAP repository for round 100 users Currently the user authentication method is being handled via a Windows Domain Controller. The host OS for Dovecot will either be FreeBSD or CentOS. Would Dovecot be able to authenticate to either t