Re: Stepping back from trying to drive this effort

2014-06-28 Thread Guy Waterval
Hi Andrea, Hi all, 2014-06-24 13:58 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti : > On 11/06/2014 Keith N. McKenna wrote: [...] > > >> Who knows, maybe our volunteers are more at ease with ODT files than the > Wiki... there are many variations we can try to improve our documentation > efforts, and if the current

Re: Stepping back from trying to drive this effort

2014-06-24 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 11/06/2014 Keith N. McKenna wrote: Andrea Pescetti wrote: still more structure won't help. People become respected in a field through mutual recognition. This is working well for other OpenOffice fields, like localization and QA. In this case Andrea I feel that a little more structure may be

Re: Stepping back from trying to drive this effort

2014-06-14 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: > Regina Henschel wrote: > > Hi Keith, > > > > Keith N. McKenna schrieb: > >> It has become painfully obvious over the last 6 months or more that I am > >> not the person to push this effort forward. I am tired of answering > >> queries abo

Re: Stepping back from trying to drive this effort

2014-06-11 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 08/06/2014 Keith N. McKenna wrote: >> I am more than willing to help but I am tired of beating my head against >> walls. > > Well, volunteers come and go. Your messages had the effect to reactivate > some people, fortunately! > >> We really do not have a documentation

Re: Stepping back from trying to drive this effort

2014-06-11 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Stephenie Barrett wrote: > I am sorry I keep coming in and out of the discussion. I was working on > a project full time the past few months and didn't have time to offer. I > am able to help with the help files and other writing as needed. I am an > experienced technical writer and would like to

Re: Stepping back from trying to drive this effort

2014-06-10 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Regina Henschel wrote: > Hi Keith, > > Keith N. McKenna schrieb: >> It has become painfully obvious over the last 6 months or more that I am >> not the person to push this effort forward. I am tired of answering >> queries about how to help and then never having people come back to the >> list. I

Re: Stepping back from trying to drive this effort

2014-06-10 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 6/10/14, Keith N. McKenna wrote: > Regina Henschel wrote: >> Hi Keith, >> >> Keith N. McKenna schrieb: >>> Alexandro Colorado wrote: >> [..] as a past contributor of ODFAuthors, I remember there was some energy put on the Structure and process and roadmap of the documentation team >>>

Re: Stepping back from trying to drive this effort

2014-06-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 08/06/2014 Keith N. McKenna wrote: I am more than willing to help but I am tired of beating my head against walls. Well, volunteers come and go. Your messages had the effect to reactivate some people, fortunately! We really do not have a documentation team at this point. What we appear t

Re: Stepping back from trying to drive this effort

2014-06-10 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Regina Henschel wrote: > Hi Keith, > > Keith N. McKenna schrieb: >> Alexandro Colorado wrote: > [..] >>> as a past contributor of ODFAuthors, I remember there was some energy >>> put on the Structure and process and roadmap of the documentation team >>> so we can prioritize the work and communicat

Re: Stepping back from trying to drive this effort

2014-06-10 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Dave wrote: > I think the internal help files are especially vital and enormously > contribute to the overall quality of a programme. > Yes, they are! I have been SLOWLY working toward being able to build inline help content in its own sandbox with dmake only --

Re: Stepping back from trying to drive this effort

2014-06-09 Thread Dave
I think the internal help files are especially vital and enormously contribute to the overall quality of a programme. On 10 June 2014 07:22, Stephenie Barrett wrote: > On 6/8/2014 1:56 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Maybe we need a bett

Re: Stepping back from trying to drive this effort

2014-06-09 Thread Stephenie Barrett
On 6/8/2014 1:56 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Maybe we need a better design and structure the community. Some roles that people can own and know what to do. This is very counter-apache way but I think is also the reason why these efforts don't pick

Re: Stepping back from trying to drive this effort

2014-06-09 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Keith, Keith N. McKenna schrieb: Alexandro Colorado wrote: [..] as a past contributor of ODFAuthors, I remember there was some energy put on the Structure and process and roadmap of the documentation team so we can prioritize the work and communicate the current status of the guides. We r

Re: Stepping back from trying to drive this effort

2014-06-09 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Keith, Keith N. McKenna schrieb: It has become painfully obvious over the last 6 months or more that I am not the person to push this effort forward. I am tired of answering queries about how to help and then never having people come back to the list. I will continue to work on the introducto

Re: Stepping back from trying to drive this effort

2014-06-08 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Alexandro Colorado wrote: > Maybe we need a better design and structure the community. Some roles > that people can own and know what to do. This is very counter-apache > way but I think is also the reason why these efforts don't pick up > since the roles are not that defined, mentoring is hard and

Re: Stepping back from trying to drive this effort

2014-06-08 Thread Alexandro Colorado
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Maybe we need a better design and structure the community. Some roles that people can own and know what to do. This is very counter-apache way but I think is also the reason why these efforts don't pick up since the roles are not that defined, mentorin

Stepping back from trying to drive this effort

2014-06-07 Thread Keith N. McKenna
It has become painfully obvious over the last 6 months or more that I am not the person to push this effort forward. I am tired of answering queries about how to help and then never having people come back to the list. I will continue to work on the introductory material as I have time, but I no lo