Re: [DNSOP] [dns-privacy] New: draft-bertola-bcp-doh-clients

2019-03-10 Thread nalini elkins
hen the > operating system or the local network does not support them. That genie > is not going back in the bottle any time soon. > > -- Christian Huitema > > > ___ > dns-privacy mailing list > dns-priv...@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mai

Re: [DNSOP] [dns-privacy] New: draft-bertola-bcp-doh-clients

2019-03-10 Thread nalini elkins
, Mar 11, 2019 at 9:44 AM Christian Huitema wrote: > > On 3/10/2019 8:25 PM, nalini elkins wrote: > > > Similarly, putting DNS in user space allows for immediate adoption > > of DNSSEC and privacy enhancements, even when the operating system or > > the local network

Re: [DNSOP] [dns-privacy] New: draft-bertola-bcp-doh-clients

2019-03-10 Thread nalini elkins
advance notice: "i aim to misbehave."[1] that is, _i am > on-path, and i intend to interfere._ why on earth the IETF decided to > equate dissidents (of whom there are tens of thousands, all of which > need full VPN's not just DoH for actual safety) with bots (of which > there are tens of millions), and set up a war between end users and > network operators, i will never understand, or try to. now, we fight. > > -- > P Vixie > > -- Thanks, Nalini Elkins President Enterprise Data Center Operators www.e-dco.com ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] [dns-privacy] New: draft-bertola-bcp-doh-clients

2019-03-11 Thread nalini elkins
11, 2019 at 8:37 PM Konda, Tirumaleswar Reddy < tirumaleswarreddy_ko...@mcafee.com> wrote: > Please see inline [TR] > > > > *From:* dns-privacy *On Behalf Of *nalini > elkins > *Sent:* Monday, March 11, 2019 11:05 AM > *To:* Paul Vixie > *Cc:* Stephen Farre

Re: [DNSOP] [dns-privacy] New: draft-bertola-bcp-doh-clients

2019-03-11 Thread nalini elkins
o what is done in California on ballot initiatives. When we get our voting pamphlet, it tells us for each issue, what impact a pro or con vote will have on various aspects such as increased taxes, and so forth. Nalini On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 11:42 PM Paul Vixie wrote: > > > nalini elkin

Re: [DNSOP] [dns-privacy] New: draft-bertola-bcp-doh-clients

2019-03-11 Thread nalini elkins
cked one list for this. > In the meantime...) > > On 11/03/2019 20:43, nalini elkins wrote: > > impact assessment that certain changes such as > > DoH and TLS1.3 will have on enterprises, > > TLS1.3 will, I expect, noticeably improve security for an awful > lot of enterpr

Re: [DNSOP] [Doh] [dns-privacy] New: draft-bertola-bcp-doh-clients

2019-03-12 Thread nalini elkins
Paul, On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 1:03 AM Paul Vixie wrote: > On Tuesday, 12 March 2019 15:36:36 UTC Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 08:55:18AM +0530, > > nalini elkins wrote > > > > a message of 202 lines which said: > > > The q

Re: [DNSOP] [Doh] New I-D: draft-reid-doh-operator

2019-03-19 Thread nalini elkins
gure to bypass such controls, but that neither of those should ever be > the default configurations. > > If the results allow you to do what you want/need, and also allow others > to do what they want/need, everyone should be happy enough with the result. > > Can we at least ag