[DNSOP] HTTPS and SVCB queries with draft-bellis-dnsext-multi-qtypes-08 extension

2024-09-12 Thread Petr Menšík
Hello, on discussion at DNS-OARC chat, we have briefly hit that draft-bellis-dnsext-multi-qtypes-08 is a bit problematic to use for A and addresses, because to be useful, it needs to first wait until first reply arrives. Which at least Linux stub does not do in any case. But I think it

[DNSOP] Re: HTTPS and SVCB queries with draft-bellis-dnsext-multi-qtypes-08 extension

2024-09-12 Thread Ben Schwartz
The situation with HTTPS+ is pretty much the same as A+: a sufficiently patient client (favoring simplicity over speed) could wait for all the answers to come back, but an impatient (i.e. optimized) client would want each answer as soon as it is ready. Web browsers today are in the latt

[DNSOP] Re: HTTPS and SVCB queries with draft-bellis-dnsext-multi-qtypes-08 extension

2024-09-12 Thread Petr Menšík
Ah, okay. Thank you for the pointers. I wondered, why such detail is not worked into the draft. It however applies to "a non-conforming recursive resolver" only. It might be used when conforming recursive resolver is used, which fills also additional answer section. I guess dns cache would ha

[DNSOP] Re: HTTPS and SVCB queries with draft-bellis-dnsext-multi-qtypes-08 extension

2024-09-12 Thread Ben Schwartz
High-performance HTTP clients usually don't worry about the number of DNS queries. Instead, they mainly worry about latency. That makes multi-qtypes a tradeoff in the wrong direction for them. It's possible that the latency of HTTPS record usage could be improved in some cases if the DNS reso

[DNSOP] Secdir telechat review of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7958bis-06

2024-09-12 Thread Klaas Wierenga via Datatracker
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[DNSOP] Re: HTTPS and SVCB queries with draft-bellis-dnsext-multi-qtypes-08 extension

2024-09-12 Thread libor.peltan
Dne 12. 09. 24 v 22:26 Petr Menšík napsal(a): Also similarly, recursive resolver when talking to authoritative server might use multi-qtypes single query instead of 3 separate queries. It needs to cache that multi queries is supported. Similar to EDNS0 support indication. I'm quite an op