Re: [DNSOP] WGLC for draft-ietf-dnsop-let-localhost-be-localhost-02

2018-01-29 Thread Petr Špaček
On 27.1.2018 18:56, Warren Kumari wrote: > On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 6:03 PM, Viktor Dukhovni > wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 02:24:26PM -0600, Ted Lemon wrote: >> Disagreed, with respect to recursive resolvers, because the requirement is neither necessary nor sufficient to achieve th

Re: [DNSOP] WGLC for draft-ietf-dnsop-let-localhost-be-localhost-02

2018-01-29 Thread Andrew Sullivan
Dear colleagues, On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 11:18:08AM -0500, Suzanne Woolf wrote: > Hi all, > > This is the opening of the Working Group Last Call for "Let 'localhost' be > localhost” > (https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-dnsop-let-localhost-be-localhost-02.txt). > I have read this document. L

Re: [DNSOP] WGLC for draft-ietf-dnsop-let-localhost-be-localhost-02

2018-01-29 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Jan 29, 2018, at 10:53 AM, dnsop-requ...@ietf.org wrote: > To add more to this, Unbound by default returns 127.0.0.1, and so does > Knot Resolver, because both decided to respect > https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6761#section-6.3 > > This is a security hole, and again, purpose of NXDOMAIN is t

Re: [DNSOP] WGLC for draft-ietf-dnsop-let-localhost-be-localhost-02

2018-01-29 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 05:32:33PM +0100, Petr Špaček wrote: > I personally agree with the doc, it makes sense to me, and I do not > believe that its wording prevent anyone from adding knobs they want. > Software in the end will do whatever its developers wanted, which might > include knob to overr

Re: [DNSOP] WGLC for draft-ietf-dnsop-let-localhost-be-localhost-02

2018-01-29 Thread Paul Vixie
chiming in for the hum: Andrew Sullivan wrote: Dear colleagues, On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 11:18:08AM -0500, Suzanne Woolf wrote: Hi all, This is the opening of the Working Group Last Call for "Let 'localhost' be localhost” (https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-dnsop-let-localhost-be-localhost-0

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-session-signal: session establishment

2018-01-29 Thread Stuart Cheshire
On 27 Jan 2018, at 18:16, Paul Hoffman wrote: > Greetings. The -05 draft still has a complexity that I can can be easily > fixed. In a few places, it says that a session can be established by the > client sending a response-requiring DSO request message. For example, from > section 4.1: > A

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-huston-kskroll-sentinel-04.txt

2018-01-29 Thread Warren Kumari
On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 8:01 AM, Robert Story wrote: > On Mon 2017-11-13 18:26:02-0800 internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts >> directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System >> Operations WG of the IETF. > > I was r

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-huston-kskroll-sentinel-04.txt

2018-01-29 Thread Martin Hoffmann
Warren Kumari wrote: > > Yes, you are right -- for all places where there is 'A' it should be > 'A or '; how do people feel about something along the lines of: > > "Throughout this document, we are using A to refer to an Address > record (either 'A' or '') " -- having "A or " scatter

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-huston-kskroll-sentinel-04.txt

2018-01-29 Thread Jaap Akkerhuis
Warren Kumari writes: > "Throughout this document, we are using A to refer to an Address > record (either 'A' or '') " -- having "A or " scattered all > over the document makes it now flow as nicely... Just for fun, turn that around: "Throughout this document, we are using ... e

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-huston-kskroll-sentinel-04.txt

2018-01-29 Thread Richard Gibson
Indeed, the concept of "address record" has also come up in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-aname-01 , which even suggests (but does not specify) the creation of an IANA registry. On 01/29/2018 05:37 PM, Martin Hoffmann wrote: Warren Kumari wrote: Yes, you are right -- for all p