Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Resolver behaviour with multiple trust anchors

2017-11-01 Thread Edward Lewis
On 10/31/17, 15:52, "DNSOP on behalf of Paul Wouters" wrote: >this zone can never be stolen from me by a parent. Can you elaborate on this, what do you mean "stolen" by a parent? The reason I am asking - choosing one strategy (any key, configured key rules, DS rules) is based on what one mo

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Resolver behaviour with multiple trust anchors

2017-11-01 Thread Edward Lewis
On 10/31/17, 20:50, "DNSOP on behalf of Mark Andrews" wrote: >Secondly doing deepest match on trust anchors is the only secure way to >prevent a parent overriding the child zone's security policy. By this, do you mean choice of cryptographic algorithm and/or length? To achieve "independenc

Re: [DNSOP] Resolver behaviour with multiple trust anchors

2017-11-01 Thread Patrik Wallstrom
If I remember the discussions correctly, there was a sense that the resolver decides the local policy. And that yes, those are the three options. Perhaps the options should be made more clear in a text somewhere. On Tue, 31 Oct 2017, Ólafur Guðmundsson wrote: There are three ways to treat this

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Resolver behaviour with multiple trust anchors

2017-11-01 Thread Edward Lewis
On 11/1/17, 08:17, "DNSOP on behalf of Patrik Wallstrom" wrote: >If I remember the discussions correctly, there was a sense that the >resolver decides the local policy. And that yes, those are the three >options. Perhaps the options should be made more clear in a text somewhere. The

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Resolver behaviour with multiple trust anchors

2017-11-01 Thread Paul Hoffman
On 1 Nov 2017, at 6:48, Edward Lewis wrote: The reason why I'm digging into this is that "things change." As a recap: this thread started with Moritz quoting from RFC 4035 and asking: Did we miss something, or is there indeed clarification needed? I believe that RFC 4035 indicates succes

Re: [DNSOP] Resolver behaviour with multiple trust anchors

2017-11-01 Thread Ólafur Guðmundsson
On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > > > > On Oct 31, 2017, at 22:25, Ólafur Guðmundsson > wrote: > > > > > > There are three ways to treat this case: > > Any-TruestedKey-works > > ConfiguredKey-trumps-DS > > DS-trumps-configuredKey > > > > I think the Last one is the "most" c

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: Resolver behaviour with multiple trust anchors

2017-11-01 Thread Edward Lewis
On 11/1/17, 11:17, "DNSOP on behalf of Ólafur Guðmundsson" wrote: >Thus the question is twofold  > >a) is there need for clarification in how protocol works possibly with >recommendation for resolver "tunable" settings.  > This is something that might be fit into -validator-requirements-. (Wh

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-woodworth-bulk-rr-07.txt

2017-11-01 Thread Dave Lawrence
Bob Harold writes: > I don't understand this section: > > 5.1.1. On-the-fly Signatures > ... >One possibly mitigation for addressing the risk of keeping the zone >signing key online would be to continue to keep the key for signing >positive answers offline and introduce a second key f