Re: [DNSOP] moving forward on special use names

2016-09-17 Thread Alain Durand
What would really help here would be standardize a way to measure toxicity. We could then track a specific string toxicity over time, and maybe then define a threshold where it is OK or not OK to delegate that particular string. I would personally agree with your assessment that maintaining this

Re: [DNSOP] moving forward on toxic and/or special use names

2016-09-17 Thread John R Levine
What would really help here would be standardize a way to measure toxicity. We could then track a specific string toxicity over time, and maybe then define a threshold where it is OK or not OK to delegate that particular string. Yes, and that gets back to the question of whose job that is. As

Re: [DNSOP] moving forward on special use names

2016-09-17 Thread Ted Lemon
I would just like to point out that what we are talking about doing is documenting the problem that we think needs to be addressed. One of the reasons we published a new document about this is that it seemed that the original effort had gone way too far down the path toward solutions, without the

Re: [DNSOP] moving forward on special use names

2016-09-17 Thread John R Levine
I would just like to point out ... I would like to wait and see what other people think about it. Regards, John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly __

Re: [DNSOP] moving forward on special use names

2016-09-17 Thread Alain Durand
> On Sep 17, 2016, at 11:38 AM, Ted Lemon wrote: > > One of the reasons we published a new document about this is that it seemed > that the original effort had gone way too far down the path toward solutions, > without there being a clear agreement on what problems exist, and what > problems

Re: [DNSOP] moving forward on special use names

2016-09-17 Thread Ralph Droms
> On Sep 17, 2016, at 11:37 AM, Ted Lemon wrote: > > I would just like to point out that what we are talking about doing is > documenting the problem that we think needs to be addressed. One of the > reasons we published a new document about this is that it seemed that the > original effor

Re: [DNSOP] moving forward on special use names

2016-09-17 Thread Ted Lemon
Alain, here's an example, from the abstract: When an end-user triggers resolution of a name on a system that supports multiple, different protocols or resolution mechanisms, it is desirable that the protocol used is unambiguous, and that requests intended for one protocol are not inadv

Re: [DNSOP] moving forward on special use names

2016-09-17 Thread Alain Durand
> On Sep 17, 2016, at 4:08 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: > > Alain, here's an example, from the abstract: > >When an end-user triggers resolution of a name on a system that >supports multiple, different protocols or resolution mechanisms, it >is desirable that the protocol used is unambiguou

Re: [DNSOP] moving forward on special use names

2016-09-17 Thread Ted Lemon
On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 8:30 PM, Alain Durand wrote: > > The working group now need to decide if they’d rather like a limited and > concise description of issues surrounding 6761 or if they rather like a > discussion of the larger issues surrounding special names in general. > Exactly right.