Re: [DNSOP] [apps-discuss] Draft of interest in DNSOP: draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf

2016-08-28 Thread Dave Crocker
Folks (including Patrik)... Hi. Checking on where group views are, now that some exchanges have happened and time has passed... On 8/3/2016 8:48 PM, Dave Crocker wrote: And now, my response to John's note... On 8/3/2016 6:58 PM, John Levine wrote: The services, on the other hand, were tho

Re: [DNSOP] [apps-discuss] Draft of interest in DNSOP: draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf

2016-08-28 Thread John Levine
>> So after going through all that and then looking at RFC 6335, including >> its assorted references to support for SRV, I gather the IANA table in >> question is: >> >>Service Name and Transport Protocol Port Number Registry > >And the draft -attrleaf- needs to point to this, I believe. So f

Re: [DNSOP] [apps-discuss] Draft of interest in DNSOP: draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf

2016-08-28 Thread Dave Crocker
On 8/28/2016 6:42 PM, John Levine wrote: atrik's and John 's postings notwithstanding, I'm still concerned about >the proposed way of handling this, namely to rely on IANA to do a manual >check of the two registries the URI RR might call on. First, it does >not seem reasonable to me to impose th

Re: [DNSOP] AAAA for e.root-servers.net

2016-08-28 Thread Shane Kerr
Ray, At 2016-08-26 18:40:40 +0100 Ray Bellis wrote: > On 26/08/2016 17:57, 神明達哉 wrote: > > I just noticed e.root-servers.net has : > > > > % dig @a.root-servers.net e.root-servers.net +short > > 2001:500:a8::e > > > > It seems to be added very recently: > > http://root-servers.org/arc

Re: [DNSOP] [apps-discuss] Draft of interest in DNSOP: draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf

2016-08-28 Thread Paul Hoffman
On 28 Aug 2016, at 18:58, Dave Crocker wrote: On 8/28/2016 6:42 PM, John Levine wrote: atrik's and John 's postings notwithstanding, I'm still concerned about >the proposed way of handling this, namely to rely on IANA to do a manual >check of the two registries the URI RR might call on. First

Re: [DNSOP] [apps-discuss] Draft of interest in DNSOP: draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf

2016-08-28 Thread Dave Crocker
On 8/28/2016 8:15 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: Simply put, specifying a smal task that requires humans to perform perfectly at random, very (very) infrequent times, is a plan designed to fail. Can't this be checked by scraping IANA on a daily basis? That is, if IANA makes a mistake, it will be dete

Re: [DNSOP] AAAA for e.root-servers.net

2016-08-28 Thread william manning
Actually, any of the root ops have that data. I suspect this is a "pre-opening", to gauge reachability of the prefix before public commit. That was the operational practice for the 20+ years I was active in root ops. /Wm On Sunday, 28 August 2016, Shane Kerr wrote: > Ray, > > At 2016-08-26 18:

Re: [DNSOP] AAAA for e.root-servers.net

2016-08-28 Thread Shane Kerr
Bill, At 2016-08-28 21:28:19 -0700 william manning wrote: > Actually, any of the root ops have that data. I suspect this is a > "pre-opening", to gauge reachability of the prefix before public commit. > That was the operational practice for the 20+ years I was active in root > ops. Can you ple

Re: [DNSOP] The Larger Discussion on Differences in Response Drafts

2016-08-28 Thread Shane Kerr
Tim, [ Apologies for coming late to the party. I was on vacation. ] At 2016-08-16 08:57:04 -0400 Tim Wicinski wrote: > In Berlin we had two presentations on different methods of returning > multiple responses: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wkumari-dnsop-multiple-responses/ > > h