Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-jabley-dnsop-refuse-any-01.txt

2015-10-14 Thread Ólafur Guðmundsson
On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 11:00 PM, Evan Hunt wrote: > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 10:10:39PM +0100, Ólafur Gušmundsson wrote: > > > > Is reference to RFC4770 security considerations good enough ? > > Sorry, which RFC? "vCard Extentions for Instant Messaging" doesn't > seem likely to be what you mean

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-edns-tcp-keepalive

2015-10-14 Thread Sara Dickinson
> On 7 Oct 2015, at 18:17, 神明達哉 wrote: > > > I've read the 03 version of draft. It's very well written and I've > not found any critical technical issues. So I basically think it's > ready to ship. > Hi, Many thanks for the review. > I have a couple of minor comments, which the authors mi

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis

2015-10-14 Thread Sara Dickinson
> On 9 Oct 2015, at 20:53, Joe Abley wrote: Joe, Thanks for the review. > I made a few notes as I read through, but it would be entirely fine with me > if they were all ignored. All your suggested rewordings improve the document and have been committed - thanks. > > Section 8: is there

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis

2015-10-14 Thread Sara Dickinson
> On 12 Oct 2015, at 11:57, Tony Finch wrote: > > Tim Wicinski wrote: >> >> This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis > > I have re-read the draft and it looks good to me. Thanks. > > A couple of suggestions for section 7: > > For the avoidance of future doubt,

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis

2015-10-14 Thread Sara Dickinson
> On 12 Oct 2015, at 21:35, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > For de-multiplexing the responses off the socket the *only* field > you should be using is the ID field. There are error conditions > that result in only the DNS header being returned. All responses > are *supposed* to be constucted in the

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis

2015-10-14 Thread Ray Bellis
On 14/10/2015 13:53, Sara Dickinson wrote: > Ah, OK. So, would the following be acceptable? > > Since pipelined responses over TCP can arrive out-of-order, clients MUST > match > responses to outstanding queries using the DNS query ID and the > transport tuple (protocol, source and desti

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis

2015-10-14 Thread Joe Abley
On 14 Oct 2015, at 8:20, Sara Dickinson wrote: > Section 6.2.3 Idle Timeouts > > @@ -477,6 +477,12 @@ > specified in [RFC1035]. Servers MAY use zero timeouts when > experiencing heavy load or are under attack. > > + DNS messages delivered over TCP might arrive in multiple segments. A > +

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis

2015-10-14 Thread Tony Finch
Ray Bellis wrote: > On 14/10/2015 13:53, Sara Dickinson wrote: > > Ah, OK. So, would the following be acceptable? > > > > Since pipelined responses over TCP can arrive out-of-order, clients MUST > > match > > responses to outstanding queries using the DNS query ID and the > > transport tupl

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-fanf-dnsop-rfc2317bis-00.txt (fwd)

2015-10-14 Thread Bob Harold
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 22:20:50 +0100, > Tony Finch wrote: > > > > The first-last convention has the minor advantage of accommodating > > non-CIDR delegations > > That's an interesting advantage. I had not thought of that. Perhaps you should mention it in the draft. You might convince some of us

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis

2015-10-14 Thread Ray Bellis
On 14/10/2015 15:55, Tony Finch wrote: > Yes. Perhaps "transport tuple" is an excessively clever way of saying > "same connection". When I wrote that I wanted to allow independent choice > of query ID per connection (rather than implying a single global ID). Hmm, §6.2.1 talks about not re-using

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-fanf-dnsop-rfc2317bis-00.txt (fwd)

2015-10-14 Thread Tony Finch
Bob Harold wrote: > That's an interesting advantage. I had not thought of that. Perhaps you > should mention it in the draft. You might convince some of us to change > our minds. Already done for the next version :-) https://git.csx.cam.ac.uk/x/ucs/u/fanf2/rfc2317bis.git/commitdiff/72b9ebbe

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-fanf-dnsop-rfc2317bis-00.txt (fwd)

2015-10-14 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 14 Oct 2015, Bob Harold wrote: On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 22:20:50 +0100, Tony Finch wrote: > > The first-last convention has the minor advantage of accommodating > non-CIDR delegations That's an interesting advantage.  I had not thought of that.  Perhaps you sho

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-jabley-dnsop-refuse-any-01.txt

2015-10-14 Thread Evan Hunt
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 09:49:59AM +0100, Ólafur Guðmundsson wrote: > Sorry for the typo : RFC4470 > > Minimally Covering NSEC Records and DNSSEC On-line Signing Ah, thanks. Yes, the first and second points mentioned in the security considerations there are both applicable. -- Evan Hunt -- e.

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis

2015-10-14 Thread Sara Dickinson
> On 14 Oct 2015, at 16:02, Ray Bellis wrote: > > > > On 14/10/2015 15:55, Tony Finch wrote: > >> Yes. Perhaps "transport tuple" is an excessively clever way of saying >> "same connection". When I wrote that I wanted to allow independent choice >> of query ID per connection (rather than imply

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis

2015-10-14 Thread Ray Bellis
On 14/10/2015 17:15, Sara Dickinson wrote: > Yes, it says: > > “ When sending multiple queries over a TCP connection clients MUST take >care to avoid Message ID collisions. In other words, they MUST NOT >re-use the DNS Message ID of an in-flight query. " > > So maybe that should actua

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis

2015-10-14 Thread Tony Finch
Ray Bellis wrote: > On 14/10/2015 17:15, Sara Dickinson wrote: > > > > So maybe that should actually read (to avoid any doubt): > > > > " When sending multiple queries over a TCP connection clients MUST take > >care to avoid Message ID collisions. In other words, they MUST NOT > >re-use

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-dnsop-5966bis

2015-10-14 Thread 神明達哉
At Wed, 14 Oct 2015 13:20:39 +0100, Sara Dickinson wrote: > > Section 8: is there benefit perhaps in including a matching SHOULD for the > > desired server behaviour? The paragraph notes that servers may respond in > > an unhelpful way if the message length and the message itself don't arrive

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-edns-tcp-keepalive

2015-10-14 Thread 神明達哉
At Wed, 14 Oct 2015 11:55:02 +0100, Sara Dickinson wrote: > > I've read the 03 version of draft. It's very well written and I've > > not found any critical technical issues. So I basically think it's > > ready to ship. > > I have a couple of minor comments, which the authors might want to > >