[DNSOP] confidentialdns draft

2013-11-28 Thread W.C.A. Wijngaards
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I also heard that this is the place to discuss DNS privacy. This draft is a protocol, and represents an (interesting) point in the solution space. I would refer to Borzmeyer's draft and Koch's draft for problem space analysis. http://tools.ietf

Re: [DNSOP] confidentialdns draft

2013-11-28 Thread Guangqing Deng
Though bringing privacy protection to the DNS query and response, this method may bring many other negative impacts on DNS system. The DNS resolution latency will be increased due to fetching so-called ENCRYPT RR which makes the DNS zone file bigger. Not onlay the DNS server but also the DNS cli

Re: [DNSOP] confidentialdns draft

2013-11-28 Thread Glen Wiley
Resolution latency is only affected initially when the resolver must fetch the confkey record, after that initial fetch (until TTL expires) there are no additional packets introduced into the query/response exchange. Zone file size is not an issue - adding a single key record to support confide

Re: [DNSOP] confidentialdns draft

2013-11-28 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013, W.C.A. Wijngaards wrote: I also heard that this is the place to discuss DNS privacy. This is a generic problem people keep mentioning. We need some new WG for DNS extensions that's not operations. i was told this was going to be discussed at dnsops at ietf88 , but it did n

Re: [DNSOP] confidentialdns draft

2013-11-28 Thread Glen Wiley
On Nov 28, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Thu, 28 Nov 2013, W.C.A. Wijngaards wrote: > >> I also heard that this is the place to discuss DNS privacy. > > This is a generic problem people keep mentioning. We need some new WG > for DNS extensions that's not operations. i was told thi

Re: [DNSOP] confidentialdns draft

2013-11-28 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013, Glen Wiley wrote: Asking the LAN's resolver for a specific record (type ENCRYPT to QNAME ".") seems a bit dangerous. This is of course completely MITM-able, but I see no real other way to trust something fundamentally untrustworthy. So that's okay. But I fear too many of t