Re: [DNSOP] Warren's DNSSEC root update draft

2015-07-22 Thread Petr Spacek
On 21.7.2015 10:55, Michael StJohns wrote: > On 7/21/2015 4:32 AM, David Conrad wrote: >> On Jul 21, 2015, at 9:07 AM, Michael StJohns wrote: >>> The decision with respect to "clients ... would see some benefit..." has >>> to be based on what the servers know. >> Yes, and the information provided

Re: [DNSOP] Warren's DNSSEC root update draft

2015-07-21 Thread Michael StJohns
On 7/21/2015 4:32 AM, David Conrad wrote: Mike, On Jul 21, 2015, at 9:07 AM, Michael StJohns wrote: The decision with respect to "clients ... would see some benefit..." has to be based on what the servers know. Yes, and the information provided by the mechanism described by Warren's draft

Re: [DNSOP] Warren's DNSSEC root update draft

2015-07-21 Thread David Conrad
Mike, On Jul 21, 2015, at 9:07 AM, Michael StJohns wrote: > The decision with respect to "clients ... would see some benefit..." has to > be based on what the servers know. Yes, and the information provided by the mechanism described by Warren's draft would provide at least some information t

Re: [DNSOP] Warren's DNSSEC root update draft

2015-07-21 Thread Michael StJohns
On 7/20/2015 2:02 PM, David Conrad wrote: Mike, On Jul 20, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Michael StJohns wrote: Basically, the major benefit from this is not to the clients who have to implement the "query occasionally so the root knows what I know", but to the root operators (or not even them maybe).

Re: [DNSOP] Warren's DNSSEC root update draft

2015-07-20 Thread David Conrad
Mike, On Jul 20, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Michael StJohns wrote: > Basically, the major benefit from this is not to the clients who have to > implement the "query occasionally so the root knows what I know", but to the > root operators (or not even them maybe). Presumably, the clients who have not ye

Re: [DNSOP] Warren's DNSSEC root update draft

2015-07-20 Thread George Michaelson
a long lived mechanism is in-band, not using labels in the DNS or query payload. bits in the EDNS space, indicating yes-no and where more than bits are needed, explicit field:value definitions will get us further. because they demand code change they can only inform us of the future. warrens mec