Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize-14.txt

2012-06-06 Thread paul vixie
On 6/6/2012 12:48 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > ... > > A properly functioning resolver will request the missing glue from > the root servers and named at least will return it in the additional > section or set TC=1. Glue isn't supposed to be truncated according > to RFC 103[45] as it is not additiona

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize-14.txt

2012-06-06 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <4fcf293a.7070...@restena.lu>, Gilles Massen writes: > Agreed, here are the queries: > > q=`jot -s . -b 123456789 25`.lu > for n in $(jot -c 13 a); do dig @${n}.root-servers.net $q +norec > +noquestion +noanswer +noauth +nocomment +nostat; done > > There are 2 groups of additional sec

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize-14.txt

2012-06-06 Thread Akira Kato
records. Please add "+bufsize=1280" to your dig commend to get a different result. -- Akira Kato From: Gilles Massen Subject: Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize-14.txt Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:56:10 +0200 > Agreed, here are the queries: > > q=`jot -s . -b 12345678

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize-14.txt

2012-06-06 Thread Anand Buddhdev
On 06/06/2012 11:56, Gilles Massen wrote: > There are 2 groups of additional sections: > A, C, E, I, J: 2 names, with their v4+v6 addresses > B, D, E, G, H, K, L, M: 4 names, only v4 addresses > > Now I don't want to pick on any implementation, rather get an idea of > the reasoning behind the beh

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize-14.txt

2012-06-06 Thread Gilles Massen
Agreed, here are the queries: q=`jot -s . -b 123456789 25`.lu for n in $(jot -c 13 a); do dig @${n}.root-servers.net $q +norec +noquestion +noanswer +noauth +nocomment +nostat; done There are 2 groups of additional sections: A, C, E, I, J: 2 names, with their v4+v6 addresses B, D, E, G, H, K, L,

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize-14.txt

2012-06-05 Thread Joe Abley
On 2012-06-05, at 08:28, Gilles Massen wrote: > One set of root servers fills the additional section with 2 names, and > their v4 and v6 addresses. But it's always the same two servers, > indepently of the server asked. The other set answers with a bit more > servers, but only v4 adresses, and he

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize-14.txt

2012-06-05 Thread Gilles Massen
Coming back to this unanswered question: from my point of view the color matching seems a bit harsh with regard to operational reality. I certainly won't get any nightmares for non exhaustive additional sections in response to extremely large queries. This said, while looking at this I noticed som

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize-14.txt

2012-05-22 Thread Edward Lewis
I looked back at this and noticed I should have said "the right matrix" is more important. Still, I'm a little surprised there's been no response from a comparison of a DNS Operations WG document to real-world measurements. Are we okay with a document that issues criteria that only 70% of TL

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize-14.txt

2012-05-10 Thread Edward Lewis
A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-dnsop-respsize-14.txt For kicks I ran the included perl code against the 313 delegations from the root zone (313 does not include "root" and does include the 11 test TLDs). ...I'll leave it to the draft to exp