Re: [DNSOP] fragile dnssec, was Fwd: New Version

2017-09-03 Thread A. Schulze
Petr Špaček: http://iepg.org/2017-07-16-ietf99/Fully%20automatic%20DNSSEC%20-%20final.pdf Feel free to play with it, we very much welcome feedback! Please direct further questions to Jaromír Talíř . update: I followed the instructions. One day after publishing a CDNSKEY I received one ema

Re: [DNSOP] fragile dnssec, was Fwd: New Version

2017-08-22 Thread Petr Špaček
On 20.8.2017 03:48, John Levine wrote: > In article <272dc071-c650-220c-3528-acb9467c7...@nic.cz> you write: >> Yes, someone might try to attack a domain using this. To lower >> probability of this kind of attack CZ.NIC is nagging the technical >> contact for one week before the DS gets installed i

Re: [DNSOP] fragile dnssec, was Fwd: New Version

2017-08-19 Thread John Levine
In article <272dc071-c650-220c-3528-acb9467c7...@nic.cz> you write: >Yes, someone might try to attack a domain using this. To lower >probability of this kind of attack CZ.NIC is nagging the technical >contact for one week before the DS gets installed into the CZ zone. > >For further details please

Re: [DNSOP] fragile dnssec, was Fwd: New Version

2017-08-17 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , "John R Levine" writes: > On Fri, 18 Aug 2017, Mark Andrews wrote: > >>> Or you can have credentials to allow the hoster to update the DS > >>> records alone. > >> > >> Of course, but that's independent of how you present the updates to the > >> registry or registrar. > > > > Yet, yo

Re: [DNSOP] fragile dnssec, was Fwd: New Version

2017-08-17 Thread John R Levine
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017, Mark Andrews wrote: Or you can have credentials to allow the hoster to update the DS records alone. Of course, but that's independent of how you present the updates to the registry or registrar. Yet, you chose to attempt to shoot down the proposal based on the premise tha

Re: [DNSOP] fragile dnssec, was Fwd: New Version

2017-08-17 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , "John R Levine" wri tes: > On Thu, 17 Aug 2017, Mark Andrews wrote: > > Or you can have credentials to allow the hoster to update the DS > > records alone. > > Of course, but that's independent of how you present the updates to the > registry or registrar. Yet, you chose to attempt

Re: [DNSOP] fragile dnssec, was Fwd: New Version

2017-08-17 Thread John R Levine
On Thu, 17 Aug 2017, Mark Andrews wrote: Or you can have credentials to allow the hoster to update the DS records alone. Of course, but that's independent of how you present the updates to the registry or registrar. Regards, John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY

Re: [DNSOP] fragile dnssec, was Fwd: New Version

2017-08-17 Thread John R Levine
Have a look at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-regext-dnsoperator-to-rrr-protocol/ I've talked to Jacques about it, will try it when I have a chance. I only have two .CA domains so it's not a very high priority at this point. I agree that at this point it's the most promising app

Re: [DNSOP] fragile dnssec, was Fwd: New Version

2017-08-17 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On 16 August 2017 at 19:09, John Levine wrote: > In article <20170816071920.ba2c98287...@rock.dv.isc.org> you write: > >> A colleague says "If TLDs allowed UPDATE messages to be processed most > >> of the issues with DNSSEC would go away. At the moment we have a whole > >> series of kludges becau

Re: [DNSOP] fragile dnssec, was Fwd: New Version

2017-08-17 Thread Petr Špaček
On 17.8.2017 01:09, John Levine wrote: > In article <20170816071920.ba2c98287...@rock.dv.isc.org> you write: >>> A colleague says "If TLDs allowed UPDATE messages to be processed most >>> of the issues with DNSSEC would go away. At the moment we have a whole >>> series of kludges because people a

Re: [DNSOP] fragile dnssec, was Fwd: New Version

2017-08-16 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <20170816230917.4475.qm...@ary.lan>, "John Levine" writes: > In article <20170816071920.ba2c98287...@rock.dv.isc.org> you write: > >> A colleague says "If TLDs allowed UPDATE messages to be processed most > >> of the issues with DNSSEC would go away. At the moment we have a whole > >> s

Re: [DNSOP] fragile dnssec, was Fwd: New Version

2017-08-16 Thread John Levine
In article <20170816071920.ba2c98287...@rock.dv.isc.org> you write: >> A colleague says "If TLDs allowed UPDATE messages to be processed most >> of the issues with DNSSEC would go away. At the moment we have a whole >> series of kludges because people are scared of signed update messages." Someone