Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2015-02-23 Thread Warren Kumari
On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Mark Delany wrote: > On 15Feb15, Paul Hoffman allegedly wrote: >> >> >> On Feb 15, 2015, at 4:49 AM, Suzanne Woolf wrote: >> > >> > The WG adopted this document some time ago (the announcement to the list >> > is dated Nov. 14, 2014). >> >> Yep, and the authors

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2015-02-15 Thread Mark Delany
On 15Feb15, Paul Hoffman allegedly wrote: > > > On Feb 15, 2015, at 4:49 AM, Suzanne Woolf wrote: > > > > The WG adopted this document some time ago (the announcement to the list is > > dated Nov. 14, 2014). > > Yep, and the authors turned in an WG-named draft: > https://tools.ietf.org/html

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2015-02-15 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Feb 15, 2015, at 4:49 AM, Suzanne Woolf wrote: > > The WG adopted this document some time ago (the announcement to the list is > dated Nov. 14, 2014). Yep, and the authors turned in an WG-named draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dnsop-edns-client-subnet-00 > It now needs revie

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2015-02-15 Thread Suzanne Woolf
The WG adopted this document some time ago (the announcement to the list is dated Nov. 14, 2014). It now needs reviewers to review and authors to revise. If you agreed to review it earlier, or even if you didn't but you're interested, please do. Authors, any feedback on the reviews/comments

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2015-02-13 Thread Livingood, Jason
On 2/13/15, 9:05 AM, "Livingood, Jason" mailto:jason_living...@cable.comcast.com>> wrote: we've got running code in bind. and no doubt other product. Should be also in Nominet’s resolver. BTW, I meant NomiNUM not NomiNET. Darned Nomi* names. ;-) JL _

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2015-02-13 Thread Marcus Grando
Thinking more about this I figure out some things. First, the resolver query needs to include ECS and can't be a regular query, that's need to verify end to end ECS support, but I think it's not a big problem. I think we need a official way to detect if authoritative has support or not and it need

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2015-02-13 Thread Peter DeVries
My dayjob supports this as well and has been running resolvers with similar functionality implemented for a while now. We are looking to switch to edns-clent-subnet once it is standardized and have been approached by parties willing to invest in development. Peter On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 1:51 A

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2015-02-12 Thread jewforice .
I support adoption of this document because we're using this spec on our authority name servers and planning to use it on our recursive resolvers. On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:50 PM, Suzanne Woolf wrote: > Dear DNSOP WG, > > This draft documents the specification, use, and cautions regarding the >

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2015-02-12 Thread Livingood, Jason
Fair point. IMO whitelisting is a common tactic used early on in deployment of new stuff to help manage deployment risk. It was also used in early IPv6 days where query access to RRs was whitelisted (see http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6589). I suspect it would be similar here; that the need

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2015-02-12 Thread Livingood, Jason
On 2/12/15, 2:54 PM, "George Michaelson" mailto:g...@algebras.org>> wrote: we've got two agencies who do DNS, and probably have > 20% worldwide eyeball share in DNS (I don't know, thats a guesstimate) now doing edns0_client_subnet albiet with whitelist, so its a permit-list, but its functionall

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2015-02-12 Thread Livingood, Jason
On 2/12/15, 2:51 PM, "Mark Delany" wrote: >Tap tap tap. Is this thing turned on? > >I think 3-4 people made some well-considered feedback on this draft, but >there has been zero discussion or author feedback for some six weeks now. > >Does that mean there is insufficient interest in progressing t

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2015-02-12 Thread Marcus Grando
The question about whitelist is the problem. I think it need to be addressed on this doc. There's some approaches, like Google does, doing low rate ECS query: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/public-dns-announce/67oxFjSLeUM Or something not so traditional like TXT record on domain record o

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2015-02-12 Thread Mark Delany
On 12Feb15, George Michaelson allegedly wrote: > > we've got two agencies who do DNS, and probably have > 20% worldwide > eyeball share in DNS (I don't know, thats a guesstimate) now doing > edns0_client_subnet albiet with whitelist, so its a permit-list, but its > functionally 'there' Whitelists

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2015-02-11 Thread George Michaelson
we've got two agencies who do DNS, and probably have > 20% worldwide eyeball share in DNS (I don't know, thats a guesstimate) now doing edns0_client_subnet albiet with whitelist, so its a permit-list, but its functionally 'there' we've got running code in bind. and no doubt other product. wouldn'

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2015-02-11 Thread Mark Delany
On 24Dec14, Mark Delany allegedly wrote: > > The draft is available here: > > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet/ > > a) 6.2 - Intent of SCOPE NETMASK > > "In both cases, the value of the SCOPE NETMASK in the reply has strong > implications with regard

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2014-12-24 Thread Mark Delany
> The draft is available here: > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet/ a) 6.2 - Intent of SCOPE NETMASK "In both cases, the value of the SCOPE NETMASK in the reply has strong implications with regard to how the reply will be cached" I wonder whether SCO

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2014-11-15 Thread Warren Kumari
On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Suzanne Woolf wrote: > Colleagues, > > This call for adoption closed earlier this week, during IETF91. > > We see significant support in the WG for working on > draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet. We're adopting it as a WG item. > > Thanks to the authors

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2014-11-14 Thread Suzanne Woolf
Colleagues, This call for adoption closed earlier this week, during IETF91. We see significant support in the WG for working on draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet. We're adopting it as a WG item. Thanks to the authors for reviving it, please resubmit with any changes you have pending

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2014-10-28 Thread Allison Mankin
I support adoption because operators are using this spec. I plan to review and also to encourage a few others who have reviews to contribute. On 28 October 2014 08:50, Suzanne Woolf wrote: > Dear DNSOP WG, > > This draft documents the specification, use, and cautions regarding the > "client-sub

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2014-10-28 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014, Suzanne Woolf wrote: This draft documents the specification, use, and cautions regarding the "client-subnet" EDNS option. Please consider adoption of this draft as a WG work item. I have a recollection we already did this call? Because I said I reluctantly agreed to adop

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2014-10-28 Thread David C Lawrence
Warren Kumari: > We actually have some updates that unfortunately didn't *quite* make > it in before the cutoff[0]. > > [0]: Yes, making it in before the cut-off or not making it in before > the cut-off is a binary, but, well Please feel free to hurl suitably non-lethal objects at me. It was

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2014-10-28 Thread Paul Ebersman
suzworldwide> The draft is available here: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet/ suzworldwide> Please review to see if you think this document is suzworldwide> suitable for adoption by DNSOP and comment to the list. I support this draft as a working group i

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2014-10-28 Thread Paul Hoffman
I support the adoption of this document in the WG even if it gets significantly changed during the WG discussion. I will review it as it progresses. --Paul Hoffman ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2014-10-28 Thread Warren Kumari
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Suzanne Woolf wrote: > Dear DNSOP WG, > > This draft documents the specification, use, and cautions regarding the > "client-subnet" EDNS option. Please consider adoption of this draft as a WG > work item. > > As some of you will remember, this is a successor to

[DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet

2014-10-28 Thread Suzanne Woolf
Dear DNSOP WG, This draft documents the specification, use, and cautions regarding the "client-subnet" EDNS option. Please consider adoption of this draft as a WG work item. As some of you will remember, this is a successor to a draft that was considered in DNSEXT some time ago and eventually