Re: [DNSOP] Problems with DS change in registry/registrar environment

2009-07-03 Thread Florian Weimer
* Patrik Fältström: > We have a problem when "a domain changes hands" and the private DS key > in some way is changed, should be changed, and sometimes is not > changed as it should. We all agree that could lead to a blackout, but > in many cases the blackout is not more serious than a normal blac

Re: [DNSOP] Problems with DS change in registry/registrar environment

2009-06-30 Thread Peter Koch
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 12:43:35PM +0200, Patrik Fältström wrote: > >> 4 Domain is transferred to new registrar > >> 5 New Domain Operator is adding new DS to the old DS set > >> 6 New Domain Operator is adding new NS > > > >Don't get you here. Where does he do this? > > Add the new NS to the

Re: [DNSOP] Problems with DS change in registry/registrar environment

2009-06-30 Thread Masataka Ohta
Patrik; > We have a problem when "a domain changes hands" and the private DS key > in some way is changed, should be changed, and sometimes is not changed > as it should. That is a manifestation of the fundamental problem that DNSSEC is not end to end. If DNSSEC were end to end, end users co

Re: [DNSOP] Problems with DS change in registry/registrar environment

2009-06-30 Thread Patrik Fältström
On 30 jun 2009, at 12.02, Antoin Verschuren wrote: So let's not discuss the mixing up of roles like registrar, registrants, dns-operators, etc. The only reason they matter is because in practice: Where have you got these numbers from? -95% of registrar changes INVOLVE a change of DNS opera

Re: [DNSOP] Problems with DS change in registry/registrar environment

2009-06-30 Thread Antoin Verschuren
> -Original Message- > From: dnsop-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Subject: [DNSOP] Problems with DS change in registry/registrar environment > > > Is this summary at least partially correct? Partially, yes. I agree with you that there i

[DNSOP] Problems with DS change in registry/registrar environment

2009-06-29 Thread Patrik Fältström
[On request from Olaf, also dnsop is included:ed] I think this discussion have derailed a bit, while on the other hand explained somewhat to me what things are really creating problems. We have a problem when "a domain changes hands" and the private DS key in some way is changed, should be