Re: [DNSOP] Another suggestion for "any"

2015-03-12 Thread Brian Dickson
tl;dr: I am thinking of the "principle of least surprise", for the use case of interactive "dig" users. Here's why: Asking ANY to a recursive resolver, the expected behavior is "whatever is in the cache" (which could be a subset of the real RRsets, and possibly empty even though RRs exist on corre

Re: [DNSOP] Another suggestion for "any"

2015-03-12 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Mar 11, 2015, at 2:00 AM, Paul Vixie wrote: > djb doesn't want QTYPE=ANY deprecated in any form. > > olafur doesn't want to "do_ANY", under any conditions. > > so i'm baffled by why you're offering this alternative? Neither djb nor Olafur are automatically the consensus of this WG. None of u

Re: [DNSOP] Another suggestion for "any"

2015-03-11 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <20150311162220.ga18...@puck.nether.net>, Jared Mauch writes: > On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 07:12:55AM -0700, Paul Hoffman wrote: > > On Mar 11, 2015, at 2:00 AM, Paul Vixie wrote: > > > djb doesn't want QTYPE=ANY deprecated in any form. > > > > > > olafur doesn't want to "do_ANY", under

Re: [DNSOP] Another suggestion for "any"

2015-03-11 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 08:13:04PM -0700, Brian Dickson wrote: > > Okay, thinking about this a bit more... > Recursive vs authoritative, RD=0 vs RD=1. > > In all combinations of the above, do the "new thing", except for one corner > case: > if(RD==1 && I_AM_AUTHORITY) then > do_ANY > > (Which

Re: [DNSOP] Another suggestion for "any"

2015-03-11 Thread Jared Mauch
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 07:12:55AM -0700, Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Mar 11, 2015, at 2:00 AM, Paul Vixie wrote: > > djb doesn't want QTYPE=ANY deprecated in any form. > > > > olafur doesn't want to "do_ANY", under any conditions. > > > > so i'm baffled by why you're offering this alternative? >

Re: [DNSOP] Another suggestion for "any"

2015-03-11 Thread Paul Vixie
> Brian Dickson > Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:13 AM > On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Brian Dickson > mailto:brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com>> > wrote: > > Hey, everyone, > > [snip] > > "dig"-friendly. > > > Okay, thinking about this a bit more... >

[DNSOP] Another suggestion for "any"

2015-03-10 Thread Brian Dickson
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Brian Dickson wrote: > Hey, everyone, > [snip] > "dig"-friendly. > Okay, thinking about this a bit more... Recursive vs authoritative, RD=0 vs RD=1. In all combinations of the above, do the "new thing", except for one corner case: if(RD==1 && I_AM_AUTHORITY) the