Re: [DNSOP] CDS RRtype - automated KSK rollover

2011-07-05 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "Chris Thompson" To: "George Barwood" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [DNSOP] CDS RRtype - automated KSK rollover > On Jun 12 2011, George Barwood wrote: > >>I have updated the draft >> >>h

Re: [DNSOP] CDS RRtype - automated KSK rollover

2011-06-30 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "Stephen Morris" To: Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [DNSOP] CDS RRtype - automated KSK rollover > On 12/06/2011 20:50, George Barwood wrote: >> I have updated the draft >> >> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-

[DNSOP] CDS RRtype - automated KSK rollover

2011-06-12 Thread George Barwood
I have updated the draft http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-barwood-dnsop-ds-publish-02.txt I have added an appendix with an exampler KSK rollover, and made various generally minor changes. IANA have now assigned type code 59 for the CDS RRtype. I'd like to request that the WG adopt this document. G

Re: [DNSOP] WGLC [2011-05-17]Section 4.1.4

2011-05-09 Thread George Barwood
> (4) Stop signing with DNS_K_2, start signing with DNS_K_1 Apologies, that should of course be (4) Stop signing with DNS_K_1, start signing with DNS_K_2 George ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] WGLC [2011-05-17] Section 4.1.4

2011-05-08 Thread George Barwood
e signatures. It is double-DS, but given that DS records are relatively small, this may be a lesser consideration, whereas the size of the DNSKEY response is most likely to be affected by fragmentation/TCP fallback considerations. George Barwood __

Re: [DNSOP] WGLC [2011-05-17]

2011-04-20 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "Joe Abley" To: "George Barwood" Cc: "Peter Koch" ; "IETF DNSOP WG" Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 9:26 PM Subject: Re: [DNSOP] WGLC [2011-05-17] > I don't think it's unreasonable for these facts,

Re: [DNSOP] WGLC [2011-05-17]

2011-04-18 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "Paul Wouters" To: "George Barwood" Cc: "IETF DNSOP WG" Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 10:34 PM Subject: Re: [DNSOP] WGLC [2011-05-17] > On Mon, 18 Apr 2011, George Barwood wrote: > >> (1) It's my belief

Re: [DNSOP] WGLC [2011-05-17]

2011-04-18 Thread George Barwood
he negative TTL for the com zone is only 900 seconds (the SOA TTL). This is probably appropriate for a NameError (NxDomain) response, but 1 day might be more appropriate for a negative DS response, to improve caching performance and reduce load on servers. I support publication of this docume

Re: [DNSOP] Do negative cache entries have to be consistent ?

2011-04-13 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "John Levine" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 7:04 PM Subject: [DNSOP] Do negative cache entries have to be consistent ? > Some friends of mine who run DNSBLs have this idea to manage the > traffic to their servers: some parts of the IP address space are

Re: [DNSOP] Comments on DS Publication draft

2010-11-11 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "Rickard Bellgrim" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:53 PM Subject: [DNSOP] Comments on DS Publication draft > Hi > > I have some comments on the document draft-barwood-dnsop-ds-publish-01: > > 1. Introduction (3rd paragraph) > It is not always the

Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-jabley-dnssec-trust-anchor-00.txt

2010-09-29 Thread George Barwood
Joe, Not directly related to this draft ( it's probably out of scope ), but is there any guidance on the timing of rollover of the Trust Anchor for the Root Zone? Specifically, how many days/months in advance will a replacement Trust Anchor be published before the old Trust Anchor becomes inval

Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification fordraft-barwood-dnsop-ds-publish-01

2010-07-03 Thread George Barwood
Sorry, the link was for the previous version. The new version is http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-barwood-dnsop-ds-publish-01.txt - George - Original Message - From: "George Barwood" To: Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 10:42 AM Subject: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification

[DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification for draft-barwood-dnsop-ds-publish-01

2010-07-03 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "IETF I-D Submission Tool" To: Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 10:22 AM Subject: New Version Notification for draft-barwood-dnsop-ds-publish-01 > > A new version of I-D, draft-barwood-dnsop-ds-publish-01.txt has been > successfully submitted by

Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification fordraft-mekking-dnsop-auto-cpsync-00

2010-07-02 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "Shane Kerr" To: "Wolfgang Nagele" Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification fordraft-mekking-dnsop-auto-cpsync-00 > I do think that George's approach only makes sense if some more work is > done fleshing

Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notificationfordraft-mekking-dnsop-auto-cpsync-00

2010-07-02 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "Wolfgang Nagele" To: "George Barwood" Cc: "Mark Andrews" ; Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notificationfordraft-mekking-dnsop-auto-cpsync-00 >> This implies extra infrastructu

Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notificationfordraft-mekking-dnsop-auto-cpsync-00

2010-07-01 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "Mark Andrews" To: "Shane Kerr" Cc: "Wolfgang Nagele" ; Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 4:42 AM Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notificationfordraft-mekking-dnsop-auto-cpsync-00 [snip] >> I do think that George's approach only makes sense if some more wo

Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notificationfordraft-mekking-dnsop-auto-cpsync-00

2010-06-30 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "Stephan Lagerholm" To: "George Barwood" ; Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 2:25 PM Subject: RE: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notificationfordraft-mekking-dnsop-auto-cpsync-00 > I would encourage some type of notification mechanism so th

Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification fordraft-mekking-dnsop-auto-cpsync-00

2010-06-30 Thread George Barwood
I'd like to encourage some discussion of the relative merits of the UPDATE approach http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-mekking-dnsop-auto-cpsync-00.txt compared to the publication approach outlined in the recent draft at http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-barwood-dnsop-ds-publish-00.txt I haven't yet done

Re: [DNSOP] That key size argument...was Re: The case for single active key

2010-06-24 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "W.C.A. Wijngaards" To: Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [DNSOP] That key size argument...was Re: The case for single active key > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi George, > > On

Re: [DNSOP] That key size argument...was Re: The case for single active key

2010-06-24 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "Olafur Gudmundsson" To: Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [DNSOP] That key size argument...was Re: The case for single active key > Should the WG document recommend/bless single key usage in > some/many cases. Not sure about recommending,

Re: [DNSOP] KSK rollover

2010-05-22 Thread George Barwood
Chris, Thanks for your comments. - Original Message - From: "Chris Thompson" To: "George Barwood" Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [DNSOP] KSK rollover > On May 22 2010, George Barwood wrote: > >>Well, I have uploaded a dra

Re: [DNSOP] KSK rollover

2010-05-22 Thread George Barwood
Well, I have uploaded a draft : http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-barwood-dnsop-ds-publish-00.txt Comments and/or indications of support are of course welome, on or off list. George - Original Message - From: "George Barwood" To: Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 8:56 AM Subject: [

Re: [DNSOP] KSK rollover

2010-05-13 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "Patrik Wallstrom" To: "George Barwood" Cc: Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [DNSOP] KSK rollover >On May 13, 2010, at 9:56 AM, George Barwood wrote: >> I have been thinking about KSK rollover in my

[DNSOP] KSK rollover

2010-05-13 Thread George Barwood
that's all I found. Have I missed something? It seems to me that this is a rather vital component if DNSSEC is to be widely deployed. Are there any plans to revive and/or implement these requirements? George Barwood ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@iet

Re: [DNSOP] Should root-servers.net be signed

2010-03-20 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "Nicholas Weaver" To: "George Barwood" Cc: "Nicholas Weaver" ; Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Should root-servers.net be signed On Mar 20, 2010, at 1:50 AM, George Barwood wrote: >>> Ens

Re: [DNSOP] Should root-servers.net be signed

2010-03-20 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "Nicholas Weaver" To: "George Barwood" Cc: "Nicholas Weaver" ; Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Should root-servers.net be signed >On Mar 19, 2010, at 12:01 PM, George Barwood wrote: >> >

Re: [DNSOP] Should root-servers.net be signed

2010-03-19 Thread George Barwood
> Hmm, you're right, IF the A records are accepted in the additional section, > true, A records could be added to the RRSET for some of the names. > But frankly speaking, thats "ADDITIONAL", and shouldn't really be accepted at > all, and if the resolver DOES cache it, I'd personally call it a b

Re: [DNSOP] Should root-servers.net be signed

2010-03-19 Thread George Barwood
>> It cuts the response from 4K to 1.5K, and I think fragmentation that >> contributes >> to these attacks being damaging. > All I need to do is find a set of open resolvers which don't have such limits > to do juuust fine. Eventually the open resolvers will get updated, and thus these attac

Re: [DNSOP] Should root-servers.net be signed

2010-03-19 Thread George Barwood
>> There are advantages besides messages being lost. >> It also prevents spoofing of fragments, and limits amplification attacks. >It doesn't limit amplification attacks by much if at all It cuts the response from 4K to 1.5K, and I think fragmentation that contributes to these attacks being dama

Re: [DNSOP] Should root-servers.net be signed

2010-03-19 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "Nicholas Weaver" To: "George Barwood" Cc: "Nicholas Weaver" ; "Matt Larson" ; Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Should root-servers.net be signed >On Mar 19, 2010, at 12:21 AM, George Ba

Re: [DNSOP] Should root-servers.net be signed

2010-03-19 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "Nicholas Weaver" To: "Matt Larson" Cc: ; "Nicholas Weaver" Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Should root-servers.net be signed > > On Mar 9, 2010, at 7:17 AM, Matt Larson wrote: > >&

Re: [DNSOP] m.root-servers.net DNSSEC TCP failures

2010-03-17 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "Jim Reid" To: "George Barwood" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [DNSOP] m.root-servers.net DNSSEC TCP failures > On 17 Mar 2010, at 11:28, George Barwood wrote: > >> It seems that m.root-server

[DNSOP] m.root-servers.net DNSSEC TCP failures

2010-03-17 Thread George Barwood
It seems that m.root-servers.net is now serving DNSSEC, but does not have TCP, so the following queries all fail dig any . @m.root-servers.net dig rrsig . @m.root-serves.net dig any . @m.root-servers.net +dnssec +bufsize=1400 None of these are normal queries, but seems a bit doubtful even so.

Re: [DNSOP] Should root-servers.net be signed

2010-03-08 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "Joe Abley" To: "Tony Finch" Cc: "George Barwood" ; Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Should root-servers.net be signed >On 2010-03-08, at 11:18, Tony Finch wrote: >> On Mon, 8 Mar 2010,

Re: [DNSOP] Should root-servers.net be signed

2010-03-07 Thread George Barwood
> But since unless you manually or do some other finagling can't easily > establish trust if you don't have trust above, root-servers.net should only > sign after .net is signed at this point in the rollout. The dependency on .net for the root name servers seems strange to me. Intuitively, I sh

Re: [DNSOP] Should root-servers.net be signed

2010-03-07 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "Jim Reid" To: "George Barwood" Cc: Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2010 10:20 AM Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Should root-servers.net be signed > On 7 Mar 2010, at 08:06, George Barwood wrote: > >> If root-servers.net is unsigned, it

[DNSOP] Should root-servers.net be signed

2010-03-07 Thread George Barwood
I have been wondering about this. For a resolver behind a NAT firewall that removes port randomization, it is possible for an attacker to spoof the priming query ( only 16 bits of ID protection ). If root-servers.net is unsigned, it's not possible for the resolver to validate the set of root IP a

[DNSOP] Roll Over and Die ?

2010-02-18 Thread George Barwood
Any reaction to this CircleID article ? http://www.circleid.com/posts/dns_resolvers_and_dnssec_roll_over_and_die/ It seems that BIND and Unbound can "enter a mode of sustained, repeated and very rapid querying of DNS servers for DNSKEY and RRSIG Resource records, causing potential problems

Re: [DNSOP] signing glue and additional data

2010-01-16 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "Jim Reid" To: "George Barwood" Cc: "IETF DNSOP WG" Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 1:25 PM Subject: signing glue and additional data > On 16 Jan 2010, at 11:17, George Barwood wrote: > >> To correct my stat

Re: [DNSOP] Priming query transport selection

2010-01-16 Thread George Barwood
> Why would glue records be signed? That's not normal in DNSSEC, AFAIK. To correct my statement, the following query shows that glue records may be signed dig soa se @a.ns.se + dnssec wich has a response size of 2944 bytes. However, most of this is Additional Section RRSIGS, and dig soa se @

Re: [DNSOP] Priming query transport selection

2010-01-15 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "Olafur Gudmundsson" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:19 PM Subject: [DNSOP] Priming query transport selection > 26 signed glue records will require about 5K answer if each RRSet is > signed by a single 1024 bit RSA key. > This will never fit into an

Re: [DNSOP] Fw: New Version Notification fordraft-bellis-dns-recursive-discovery-00

2009-10-16 Thread George Barwood
Ray, I have read the draft, found no problems other than the missing security considerations ( I don't see any particular security considerations ), and fully support it. Did you consider a "referral" model using NS records? LOCAL.ARPA.9000NSA.LOCAL.ARPA. LOCAL.ARPA.9000NS

Re: [DNSOP] Review of draft-livingood-dns-redirect-00

2009-07-15 Thread George Barwood
-considered-harmful-00. +1 I believe that draft-livingood-dns-redirect-00 is fundamentally misconceived and wrong. I oppose it's adoption as a WG document. "You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig." Best wishes, George Barwood UK > Kind regards, > >

[DNSOP] Malformed response to EDNS option

2009-05-27 Thread George Barwood
I'm seeing a malformed response to EDNS options from the name servers for atdmt.com, e.g. dig +nsid clk.atdmt.com @glb04.aquantive.com reports ;; Warning: Message parser reports malformed message packet. ;; WARNING: Messages has 95 extra bytes at end The problem seems to be triggered by any ED

Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-pettersen-subtld-structure-04.txt

2008-11-04 Thread George Barwood
it should be fairly good I think. George Barwood - Original Message - From: "Yngve N. Pettersen (Developer Opera Software ASA)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:47 PM Subject: [DNSOP] Fwd: I-D Action:draft-pettersen-subtld-structure-04.