Re: [DNSOP] Updated: Compact Denial of Existence

2023-03-14 Thread Ralf Weber
Moin! On 14 Mar 2023, at 22:57, John R Levine wrote: >> John it won’t work with chained validators. > > How about if I only send a "lie to me" option upstream if I get one from my > client? I realize this means takeup will be pretty slow. Clients have no control over what a resolver does upstr

Re: [DNSOP] Updated: Compact Denial of Existence

2023-03-14 Thread John R Levine
John it won’t work with chained validators. How about if I only send a "lie to me" option upstream if I get one from my client? I realize this means takeup will be pretty slow. Regards, John Levine, jo...@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY Please consider the environment before

Re: [DNSOP] Updated: Compact Denial of Existence

2023-03-14 Thread Mark Andrews
John it won’t work with chained validators. -- Mark Andrews > On 15 Mar 2023, at 07:59, John Levine wrote: > > It appears that Peter Thomassen said: >> So I take it that when the EDNS signal is there, compact DoE responses get >> an NXDOMAIN code. >> >> In case the EDNS flag is not set,

Re: [DNSOP] Updated: Compact Denial of Existence

2023-03-14 Thread John Levine
It appears that Peter Thomassen said: >So I take it that when the EDNS signal is there, compact DoE responses get an >NXDOMAIN code. > >In case the EDNS flag is not set, does the nameserver return (a) the compact >proof (with sentinel in >the type map) is sent, but with a NOERROR code, or (b) a

Re: [DNSOP] Updated: Compact Denial of Existence

2023-03-14 Thread Peter Thomassen
On 3/14/23 17:05, Shumon Huque wrote: The NXDOMAIN or NOERROR "state" definitely has to be proven by the signed records inside the message. (...) So, I think the only way we could safely do RCODE replacement for signed responses is by the use of an EDNS signal. I'd like to understand bet

Re: [DNSOP] Updated: Compact Denial of Existence

2023-03-14 Thread Paul Vixie
Shumon Huque wrote on 2023-03-14 09:05: ... So, I think the only way we could safely do RCODE replacement for signed responses is by the use of an EDNS signal. sadly, +1. -- P Vixie ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mai

Re: [DNSOP] Updated: Compact Denial of Existence

2023-03-14 Thread Shumon Huque
On Sun, Mar 12, 2023 at 6:03 AM Vladimír Čunát wrote: > On 06/03/2023 03.35, Shumon Huque wrote: > > I suspect that unilaterally putting NXDOMAIN into the rcode field will > break a lot of validator code. They are likely to use the rcode to advise > them on what type of proof to look for in the m

[DNSOP] Artart last call review of draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-22

2023-03-14 Thread Barry Leiba via Datatracker
Reviewer: Barry Leiba Review result: Ready Thanks for a clear, concise, and, if I may say, valuable document. I couldn't even find any typos. I have two very minor comments, both of which can be ignored if you prefer: 1. In Section 4, you use "somename.alt" -- was that chosen over "example.alt"

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld next steps

2023-03-14 Thread Rob Wilton (rwilton)
Hi DNSOP WG, The liaison statement has been sent, and can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/1821/ Regards, Rob From: DNSOP On Behalf Of Rob Wilton (rwilton) Sent: 08 March 2023 10:30 To: Joe Abley ; d...@virtualized.org; George Michaelson Cc: dnsop@ietf.org; draft-ietf-d