Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-large-resp

2019-01-21 Thread Paul Vixie
Peter van Dijk wrote on 2019-01-21 11:22: Hello, On 18 Jan 2019, at 18:55, Benno Overeinder wrote: ... This starts a Call for Adoption for: draft-song-atr-large-resp I oppose adoption. ... likewise. we should not avoid fragmentation in this particular way. that is, we can use persistent

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-large-resp

2019-01-21 Thread Ralph Dolmans
On 21-01-19 11:22, Peter van Dijk wrote: > I oppose adoption. Any implementation of this draft will actively hurt the > DNS and the Internet, and thus publication as an RFC will actively hurt the > DNS and the Internet. I agree with Peter. This workaround does more harm than good and should no

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-large-resp

2019-01-21 Thread John Dickinson
+1. I we should not adopt this draft for all the reasons all ready presented in the thread and also the draft text regarding "moving all DNS over TCP”. regards John On 21 Jan 2019, at 10:41, Ralf Weber wrote: > Moin! > > On 21 Jan 2019, at 11:26, Ondřej Surý wrote: >>> On 21 Jan 2019, at 11:22

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-large-resp

2019-01-21 Thread Petr Špaček
On 21. 01. 19 11:34, Jim Reid wrote: > > >> On 21 Jan 2019, at 10:26, Ondřej Surý wrote: >> >> We can’t be removing EDNS workarounds and at the same time slap another >> workaround into the DNS. > > +1 > > I think the WG should drop this draft. +1, I also oppose adoption of this draft. So

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-large-resp

2019-01-21 Thread Ralf Weber
Moin! On 21 Jan 2019, at 11:26, Ondřej Surý wrote: On 21 Jan 2019, at 11:22, Peter van Dijk wrote: Please do not adopt. +1 to everything that Peter said. I’ve been opposing ATR draft from the very beginning. We can’t be removing EDNS workarounds and at the same time slap another workarou

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-large-resp

2019-01-21 Thread Jim Reid
> On 21 Jan 2019, at 10:26, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > We can’t be removing EDNS workarounds and at the same time slap another > workaround into the DNS. +1 I think the WG should drop this draft. ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-large-resp

2019-01-21 Thread Ondřej Surý
> On 21 Jan 2019, at 11:22, Peter van Dijk wrote: > > Signed PGP part > Hello, > > On 18 Jan 2019, at 18:55, Benno Overeinder wrote: > >> We discussed this work (draft -01) in Montreal, and different opinions wrt. >> adoption were expressed. In the past months, the authors pushed a draft >>

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-large-resp

2019-01-21 Thread Peter van Dijk
Hello, On 18 Jan 2019, at 18:55, Benno Overeinder wrote: > We discussed this work (draft -01) in Montreal, and different opinions wrt. > adoption were expressed. In the past months, the authors pushed a draft > version -02 that addressed and resolved some of these comments. > > This starts a C