[DNSOP] Spencer Dawkins' Yes on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis-13: (with COMMENT)

2018-08-27 Thread Spencer Dawkins
Spencer Dawkins has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis-13: Yes When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to h

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pusateri-dnsop-update-timeout-00.txt

2018-08-27 Thread Mark Andrews
MS does something in the LDAP backend. It does however show that there is a need for the functionality. > On 28 Aug 2018, at 10:04 am, Ted Lemon wrote: > > How do they handle that? > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 8:02 PM Mark Andrews wrote: > Active directory has each domain controller updating it

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pusateri-dnsop-update-timeout-00.txt

2018-08-27 Thread Ted Lemon
How do they handle that? On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 8:02 PM Mark Andrews wrote: > Active directory has each domain controller updating its own SRV record > on the same tuple. These updates happen at different > times and need to expire if a domain controller becomes unreachable. > > A different c

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pusateri-dnsop-update-timeout-00.txt

2018-08-27 Thread Mark Andrews
Active directory has each domain controller updating its own SRV record on the same tuple. These updates happen at different times and need to expire if a domain controller becomes unreachable. A different case is when you have multiple prefixes from different providers with different lifetimes.

[DNSOP] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis-13: (with COMMENT)

2018-08-27 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
Benjamin Kaduk has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis-13: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please re

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pusateri-dnsop-update-timeout-00.txt

2018-08-27 Thread Ted Lemon
Sorry, I realized that I accidentally hit "reply" instead of "reply all." The issue that I raised with Tom is that for the DNSSD SRP use case, the only names that receive updates from multiple services are service names (IOW, not service instance names). In the case of SRP, PTR RRs in service

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pusateri-dnsop-update-timeout-00.txt

2018-08-27 Thread Tom Pusateri
Not true. You have PTR records with the same service name from multiple clients each with different RDATA and unique timeouts as I demonstrated yesterday in the example. Tom > On Aug 27, 2018, at 3:27 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: > > For service instance names, there is only one service. So there sh

[DNSOP] Alvaro Retana's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis-13: (with COMMENT)

2018-08-27 Thread Alvaro Retana
Alvaro Retana has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-dnsop-terminology-bis-13: No Objection When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please ref

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pusateri-dnsop-update-timeout-00.txt

2018-08-27 Thread Ted Lemon
For service instance names, there is only one service. So there shouldn’t be a problem. On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 2:28 PM Tom Pusateri wrote: > Because even if you add TYPE, you have multiple PTR records (instance > names) with the same owner name, class, and type that can timeout > differently. >

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pusateri-dnsop-update-timeout-00.txt

2018-08-27 Thread Tom Pusateri
> On Aug 27, 2018, at 2:25 PM, Tom Pusateri wrote: > > > Sorting the timeouts is a good idea. > Well, maybe sorting timeouts is a good idea. Depending on how they are represented internally, it makes no difference. I would like to hear from implementors whether this even matters. Thanks,

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pusateri-dnsop-update-timeout-00.txt

2018-08-27 Thread Tom Pusateri
Because even if you add TYPE, you have multiple PTR records (instance names) with the same owner name, class, and type that can timeout differently. Tom > On Aug 26, 2018, at 11:20 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: > > If we do that, why do we need a hash at all? > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 10:51 PM Mark

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pusateri-dnsop-update-timeout-00.txt

2018-08-27 Thread Tom Pusateri
> On Aug 26, 2018, at 10:51 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > > I would add a covered type field to TIMEOUT (c.f. RRSIG). I also wouldn’t > have more than > a single timeout per record. I’m tempted to say a single hash as well. If > there is multiple > timeouts per record then the blocks need to b

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-pusateri-dnsop-update-timeout-00.txt

2018-08-27 Thread Tom Pusateri
I’m not sure I understand your comment. I believe I just showed you how SRP does work in the existing draft. If I’ve somehow mis-understood how SRP works, please let me know. Tom > On Aug 26, 2018, at 10:48 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: > > SRP has to work. We updated the DNS update lease spec to ac