Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Call for Adoption draft-vixie-dns-rpz

2016-12-29 Thread joel jaeggli
On 12/29/16 1:51 PM, william manning wrote: > "lets standardize this 'cause everyone does it" sounds like the medical > community should have standardized on whiskey & leaches & coat hangers > because thats what everyone did. if this work does proceed, i'd like to > insist that it carry a disclai

Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Call for Adoption draft-vixie-dns-rpz

2016-12-29 Thread Ted Lemon
On Dec 29, 2016, at 4:51 PM, william manning wrote: > i'd like to insist Can you explain what you mean by this from a process perspective? ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Call for Adoption draft-vixie-dns-rpz

2016-12-29 Thread william manning
"lets standardize this 'cause everyone does it" sounds like the medical community should have standardized on whiskey & leaches & coat hangers because thats what everyone did. if this work does proceed, i'd like to insist that it carry a disclaimer that it is designed specifically for closed netw

Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Call for Adoption draft-vixie-dns-rpz

2016-12-29 Thread Vernon Schryver
> From: Richard Clayton > Everyone involved understands that there isn't at present a turnkey > application that the other 5% (and indeed all the in-house corporate > systems) could deploy I do not understand that. If the command `nslookup -q=txt -class=CHAOS version.bind` to a UNIX shell or

Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Call for Adoption draft-vixie-dns-rpz

2016-12-29 Thread John Levine
>> Please see the previous gazillion messages from people who are using >> RPZ in production to keep malware away from their users. >> >> Also see the previous gazillion messages noting that governments do >> all sorts of DNS censorship now and don't need RPZ. >> >> Could you explain in more deta

Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Call for Adoption draft-vixie-dns-rpz

2016-12-29 Thread Scott Schmit
On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 05:45:59AM -, John Levine wrote: > >I'm seeing how it really helps governments cheaply create and enforce > >the creation of national internets -- especially with the walled garden > >features. Are those the good guys to you, or are there other benefits? > > Please see

Re: [DNSOP] DNSOP Call for Adoption draft-vixie-dns-rpz

2016-12-29 Thread Richard Clayton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message <20161229054559.31443.qm...@ary.lan>, John Levine writes >>I'm seeing how it really helps governments cheaply create and enforce >>the creation of national internets -- especially with the walled garden >>features. Are those the good guys