Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-nxdomain-cut-02.txt

2016-05-09 Thread Shumon Huque
On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 2:01 PM, 神明達哉 wrote: > At Mon, 25 Apr 2016 21:39:32 +0200, > Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > > Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote > > a message of 17 lines which said: > > > > > > Title : NXDOMAIN really means there is nothing > underneath > > > > Author

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dnsop-isp-ip6rdns

2016-05-09 Thread Ted Lemon
Yes, that's my recollection as well. We've been working on some version or another of this draft for kind of a long time, and that's why the current document is as neutral as it is. I think that neutrality really does represent wg consensus, not in the sense that everybody is neutral, but that

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dnsop-isp-ip6rdns

2016-05-09 Thread Howard, Lee
On 5/9/16, 2:15 PM, "DNSOP on behalf of 神明達哉" wrote: >At Fri, 6 May 2016 14:59:12 -0400, >Ted Lemon wrote: > >> > While a reverse mapping is generally useful for informational >> > purposes, some people use it even more aggressively, such as for >> > access control or host validation

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call draft-ietf-dnsop-isp-ip6rdns

2016-05-09 Thread 神明達哉
At Fri, 6 May 2016 14:59:12 -0400, Ted Lemon wrote: > > While a reverse mapping is generally useful for informational > > purposes, some people use it even more aggressively, such as for > > access control or host validation based on the existence of a > > reverse mapping, and often also

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-nxdomain-cut-02.txt

2016-05-09 Thread 神明達哉
At Mon, 25 Apr 2016 21:39:32 +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote > a message of 17 lines which said: > > > > Title : NXDOMAIN really means there is nothing > > > underneath > > > Authors : Stephane Bortzmeyer > > >

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption for draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse

2016-05-09 Thread 神明達哉
At Mon, 09 May 2016 19:46:01 +0900 (JST), fujiw...@jprs.co.jp wrote: > >> >When aggressive use is enabled, regardless of description of > >> >Section 4.5 of [RFC4035], it is possible to send a positive response > >> >immediately when the name in question matches a NSEC/NSEC3 RRs in the

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption for draft-fujiwara-dnsop-nsec-aggressiveuse

2016-05-09 Thread fujiwara
> From: 神明達哉 >> > - Abstract: I suggest revising this on this point (see above): >> > >> >responses as well as some level of mitigation of random sub-domain >> >attacks (referred to as "Water Torture" attacks). >> > >> > by either simply removing it or clarifying that it's mitigation for