Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-nxdomain-cut-01.txt

2016-03-10 Thread Ted Lemon
> Main change: reorganisation of the text so that the normative section > 2 is written in a purely protocol-behaviour way, without any reference > to the implementation. Section 5 now discuss implementation. This seems like the right thing to do. However, I think that this document still goes t

Re: [DNSOP] edns-key-tag: EDNS0 option or query name?

2016-03-10 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <07285239-6239-4c1c-b684-7ff72306a...@verisign.com>, "Wessels, Duane " writes: > During previous discussions of the edns-key-tag draft, some people argued tha > t it would be better to convey key tags as query names, rather than EDNS0 opt > ions. > > Perhaps the best argument against t

[DNSOP] edns-key-tag: EDNS0 option or query name?

2016-03-10 Thread Wessels, Duane
During previous discussions of the edns-key-tag draft, some people argued that it would be better to convey key tags as query names, rather than EDNS0 options. Perhaps the best argument against the EDNS0 option is that since EDNS0 is hop-by-hop, some resolvers and other meddleboxes won't know to

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-edns-key-tag-01.txt

2016-03-10 Thread Wessels, Duane
> On Mar 9, 2016, at 4:58 PM, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote: > > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations of the IETF. > >Title : The EDNS Key Tag Option >Auth

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-nxdomain-cut-01.txt

2016-03-10 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 12:59:49PM -0800, internet-dra...@ietf.org wrote a message of 47 lines which said: > Title : NXDOMAIN really means there is nothing underneath > Filename: draft-ietf-dnsop-nxdomain-cut-01.txt ... > A diff from the previous version is avai

[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-nxdomain-cut-01.txt

2016-03-10 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations of the IETF. Title : NXDOMAIN really means there is nothing underneath Authors : Stephane Bortzmeyer

Re: [DNSOP] Erratra rejection

2016-03-10 Thread Mark Andrews
I believe the erratra below was rejected incorrectly. Firstly I can't see any discussion of this erratra on the pkix list in the archive. Secondly there are lots of technical errors in the rejection logic. 1) Nameserver reject whole zones at load time if a record refuses to parse. The record

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-song-dns-wireformat-http-01.txt

2016-03-10 Thread Tony Finch
Shane Kerr wrote: > At 2016-03-10 11:21:59 + > Tony Finch wrote: > > > Davey Song wrote: > > > > > > 1) Keep-alive does reduce latency in long time queries. It is a > > > little surprising to see that with keep-alive, DNS over HTTP’s > > > latency is almost the same as UDP. > > > > That's no

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-song-dns-wireformat-http-01.txt

2016-03-10 Thread Shane Kerr
All, At 2016-03-10 17:15:12 +0800 Davey Song wrote: > FYI. A simple lab test done by my colleague. > > http://www.dnsv6lab.net/2016/03/05/A-performance-test-of-DNS-over-different-transport-protocol/ > > There are some observations: > 2) When coming to HTTPS, the keep-alive cannot reduce late

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-song-dns-wireformat-http-01.txt

2016-03-10 Thread Shane Kerr
Tony, At 2016-03-10 11:21:59 + Tony Finch wrote: > Davey Song wrote: > > > > 1) Keep-alive does reduce latency in long time queries. It is a little > > surprising to see that with keep-alive, DNS over HTTP’s latency is almost > > the same as UDP. > > That's not unexpected on a fast link,

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-song-dns-wireformat-http-01.txt

2016-03-10 Thread George Michaelson
I expect that DNS over TLS and DNS over HTTP/2 are both going to get to much the same place because the technology is driving to the same place: get more of the query into the initial incoming packet so that the first response has useful payload. Do you think the differences are down to more than i

Re: [DNSOP] New Security Tool: MrLooquer - IPv6 Intelligence

2016-03-10 Thread Jim Reid
> On 10 Mar 2016, at 12:54, ac wrote: > > who knew that on dnsop you would learn and get free entertainment :) What other reasons are there to be here? :-) ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] New Security Tool: MrLooquer - IPv6 Intelligence

2016-03-10 Thread ac
On Thu, 10 Mar 2016 13:37:34 +0100 Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 01:25:57PM +0100, > Francisco J. Gómez Rodríguez wrote > a message of 102 lines which said: > > Dear Sirs, > Our working group chair won't be happy :-) > > I recommend you to try port filter with value 53 (

Re: [DNSOP] New Security Tool: MrLooquer - IPv6 Intelligence

2016-03-10 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 01:25:57PM +0100, Francisco J. Gómez Rodríguez wrote a message of 102 lines which said: > Dear Sirs, Our working group chair won't be happy :-) > I recommend you to try port filter with value 53 (port:53) --> > https://mrlooquer.com/list?q=port:53 Quota exceded [sic]

[DNSOP] New Security Tool: MrLooquer - IPv6 Intelligence

2016-03-10 Thread Francisco J . Gómez Rodríguez
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Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-song-dns-wireformat-http-01.txt

2016-03-10 Thread Tony Finch
Davey Song wrote: > > 1) Keep-alive does reduce latency in long time queries. It is a little > surprising to see that with keep-alive, DNS over HTTP’s latency is almost > the same as UDP. That's not unexpected on a fast link, but it would be worth estimating the difference in serialization latenc

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-song-dns-wireformat-http-01.txt

2016-03-10 Thread Davey Song
FYI. A simple lab test done by my colleague. http://www.dnsv6lab.net/2016/03/05/A-performance-test-of-DNS-over-different-transport-protocol/ There are some observations: 1) Keep-alive does reduce latency in long time queries. It is a little surprising to see that with keep-alive, DNS over HTTP’s