[DNSOP] An approach to DNS privacy

2014-03-08 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
In my view we need to consider different privacy issues in the stub-resolver and resolver-authoritative interactions. In the stub-resolver interaction the primary objective is to encrypt requests and responses without impacting latency. For a heavily trafficked resolver, the resolver-authoritativ

Re: [DNSOP] DNS privacy : now at least two drafts

2014-03-08 Thread Florian Weimer
* Stephane Bortzmeyer: > On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 06:07:48PM +0100, > Florian Weimer wrote > a message of 17 lines which said: > >> > It is. Section 2.2.2 >> >> Can you quote it here? > > 2.2.2. In the authoritative name servers Ahhh, this section heading is wrong, the section is actually d

[DNSOP] DNS Privacy Use Cases, Requirements and Constraints.

2014-03-08 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
I think we need some use cases to ground discussion. These are the use cases I have been considering: A) Alice, surfing the Web from her own machine at home does not want her Web browsing history to be revealed to other parties. A1) Note here that Alice might also use the same machine to access

Re: [DNSOP] DNS privacy : now at least two drafts

2014-03-08 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 06:07:48PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote a message of 17 lines which said: > > It is. Section 2.2.2 > > Can you quote it here? 2.2.2. In the authoritative name servers A possible solution would be to minimize the amount of data sent from the resolver. When a r

Re: [DNSOP] DNS privacy and Team Cymru's report on 300, 000 SOHO routers with compromised DNS settings

2014-03-08 Thread Niranjan U
> ?I don't even see DNSSEC helping much here, either, given that the attacker could just strip out the DNSSEC > info (unless, perhaps, the home computers were running full (vs stub) recursive resolvers that also did DNSSEC-validation). Recursive resolvers, if run responsibly can help alleviate som

Re: [DNSOP] DNS privacy : now at least two drafts

2014-03-08 Thread Florian Weimer
* Stephane Bortzmeyer: > On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 05:50:55PM +0100, > Florian Weimer wrote > a message of 22 lines which said: > >> The -sol draft mentions QNAME minimization without defining the >> term. > > It is. Section 2.2.2 Can you quote it here? It seems to be missing from the 00 versi

Re: [DNSOP] DNS privacy : now at least two drafts

2014-03-08 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 05:50:55PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote a message of 22 lines which said: > The -sol draft mentions QNAME minimization without defining the > term. It is. Section 2.2.2 I'll add some more cross-references to make it easier to find it. _

Re: [DNSOP] DNS privacy : now at least two drafts

2014-03-08 Thread Florian Weimer
* Stephane Bortzmeyer: > I just posted a new version of the DNS privacy draft, > draft-bortzmeyer-dnsop-dns-privacy-01. The most important difference > is that it is now split in two, one pure problem statement, > draft-bortzmeyer-dnsop-dns-privacy and an exploration of possible > solutions, draft

Re: [DNSOP] CPE devices doing DNSSEC

2014-03-08 Thread Jim Reid
On 8 Mar 2014, at 09:00, Mark Andrews wrote: > But they get told to do EPP to talk to the registries. Correction: some registrars are obliged to use EPP to talk to some registries. The followup to that is all TLD registries are exactly the same. Except where they are different. Even in ICANN

Re: [DNSOP] pushing updates to the parent

2014-03-08 Thread Paul Wouters
On Sat, 8 Mar 2014, Mark Andrews wrote: Our audience should be the CPE developer with the one "turn on DNSSEC" button which generates the keys, signs the zone, pushes keys upstream at the right time. It has a username/password field for zones where it is not automatically installing KEY records

Re: [DNSOP] CPE devices doing DNSSEC

2014-03-08 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Paul Hoffm an writes: > On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > I know Registrars don't like to be told what to do > > +1 But they get told to do EPP to talk to the registries. They have failed to invent / document a common standard way for machine updates to w