Re: [DNSOP] Comments on DS Publication draft

2010-11-11 Thread Stephan Lagerholm
Richard and George, > -Original Message- > From: dnsop-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Rickard Bellgrim > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:32 PM > To: George Barwood > Cc: dnsop@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Comments on DS Publication draft > > > On 1

Re: [DNSOP] Comments on DS Publication draft

2010-11-11 Thread Rickard Bellgrim
On 12 nov 2010, at 06.15, George Barwood wrote: >> 1. Introduction (3rd paragraph) >> It is not always the case that the child is the one defining the DS RRset. >> Some parents wants (for some reason) to create the DS RRset based on their >> own policy (choice of hash) and based on what DNSKEY

Re: [DNSOP] On resolver priming

2010-11-11 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 1:49 PM -0500 11/11/10, Matt Larson wrote: >On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Andrew Sullivan wrote: >> I think these discussions waste a lot of time, and so as a purely >> tactical measure it strikes me that we could shut down that line of >> argument by just signing the data. > >So we should alter critical

Re: [DNSOP] Comments on DS Publication draft

2010-11-11 Thread Stephan Lagerholm
> -Original Message- > From: dnsop-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > George Barwood > Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 4:15 PM > To: Rickard Bellgrim; dnsop@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Comments on DS Publication draft > > > - Original Message - >

Re: [DNSOP] draft-liman-tld-names-04

2010-11-11 Thread Masataka Ohta
Joe Abley wrote: > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-liman-tld-names-04.txt > > is the latest iteration of an effort started quite some time > ago to clarify the somewhat vague inference in RFC 1123 and > create a more precise specification for the syntax of TLD > labels in the DNS. The authors have n

Re: [DNSOP] Comments on DS Publication draft

2010-11-11 Thread George Barwood
- Original Message - From: "Rickard Bellgrim" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 3:53 PM Subject: [DNSOP] Comments on DS Publication draft > Hi > > I have some comments on the document draft-barwood-dnsop-ds-publish-01: > > 1. Introduction (3rd paragraph) > It is not always the

Re: [DNSOP] draft-liman-tld-names-04

2010-11-11 Thread Mans Nilsson
Subject: Re: [DNSOP] draft-liman-tld-names-04 Date: Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:19:03PM +0100 Quoting Patrik Fältström (pat...@frobbit.se): > On 11 nov 2010, at 19.42, Joe Abley wrote: > > > [sending separately to dnsext and to dnsop, apologies for duplicates] > > > > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-li

Re: [DNSOP] draft-liman-tld-names-04

2010-11-11 Thread Patrik Fältström
On 11 nov 2010, at 19.42, Joe Abley wrote: > [sending separately to dnsext and to dnsop, apologies for duplicates] > > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-liman-tld-names-04.txt > > is the latest iteration of an effort started quite some time ago to clarify > the somewhat vague inference in RFC 1123 a

Re: [DNSOP] On resolver priming

2010-11-11 Thread bmanning
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:03:51AM -0500, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > Hi all, > > The last discussion of signing ROOT-SERVERS.NET involved the arguments > that there's no real value in signing the zone and that there is a > non-zero cost to doing so. > > I agree with both of those arguments, but I w

Re: [DNSOP] On resolver priming

2010-11-11 Thread Matt Larson
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > I think these discussions waste a lot of time, and so as a purely > tactical measure it strikes me that we could shut down that line of > argument by just signing the data. So we should alter critical infrastructure to stifle argument and, by extension

[DNSOP] draft-liman-tld-names-04

2010-11-11 Thread Joe Abley
Hi all, [sending separately to dnsext and to dnsop, apologies for duplicates] http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-liman-tld-names-04.txt is the latest iteration of an effort started quite some time ago to clarify the somewhat vague inference in RFC 1123 and create a more precise specification for the

Re: [DNSOP] On resolver priming

2010-11-11 Thread Tony Finch
On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > > I agree with both of those arguments, but I wonder whether it might > not be a better sales job if we just accepted it maybe ought to be > signed anyway. Yes. Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finchhttp://dotat.at/ HUMBER THAMES DOVER WIGHT PORTLAND: NORTH

Re: [DNSOP] On resolver priming

2010-11-11 Thread Griffiths, Chris
On 11/11/10 6:03 PM, "Andrew Sullivan" wrote: >Hi all, > >The last discussion of signing ROOT-SERVERS.NET involved the arguments >that there's no real value in signing the zone and that there is a >non-zero cost to doing so. > >I agree with both of those arguments, but I wonder whether it might

Re: [DNSOP] On resolver priming

2010-11-11 Thread Joao Damas
lowering the noise generated by this discussion by just doing it seems to shift the balance towards the benefit rather than the cost, so +1 On 11 Nov 2010, at 11:03, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > Hi all, > > The last discussion of signing ROOT-SERVERS.NET involved the arguments > that there's no rea

Re: [DNSOP] On resolver priming

2010-11-11 Thread Frederico A C Neves
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 05:03:51AM -0500, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > Hi all, > > The last discussion of signing ROOT-SERVERS.NET involved the arguments > that there's no real value in signing the zone and that there is a > non-zero cost to doing so. > > I agree with both of those arguments, but I w

[DNSOP] On resolver priming

2010-11-11 Thread Andrew Sullivan
Hi all, The last discussion of signing ROOT-SERVERS.NET involved the arguments that there's no real value in signing the zone and that there is a non-zero cost to doing so. I agree with both of those arguments, but I wonder whether it might not be a better sales job if we just accepted it maybe o